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US President Donald Trump has today announced massive new tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminium, while threatening to "shut down" its car industry and saying the best way to end the trade war was for Washington's ally to be absorbed into the US.

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 125 points 4 days ago (4 children)

He's probably having his stock broker sell off a bunch of stuff, announcing tariffs, then buying back. His stock transactions should be public record while president.

[–] upandup@sh.itjust.works 78 points 4 days ago (3 children)

He shouldn’t even be allowed to own any stocks as president

[–] grue@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago

Thank you! It's ridiculous how much even people opposed to Trump have allowed him to frame the debate.

Fucker should've been impeached and removed on Inauguration Day -- 2017, let alone 2025 -- for Emoluments Clause violations alone.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 17 points 4 days ago

Holding public office is supposed to be an act of service. All federal and probably all state politicians and their staff should not be allowed to own any individual stocks or companies, including any mutual funds without diverse holdings. And the right people to lead would be glad to do it and to transparently demonstrate their compliance.

But nope. The system is designed to attract and reward scumbags. Mainstream society tells us that loathsome narcissistic sociopaths who happen to accumulate a large net worth are the pinnacle of human existence and we should be thanking them for dragging us out of the dark ages.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Prior presidents had their assets placed in blind trusts, and they didn't know where they were invested. They didn't even know how wealthy they were until they left office.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This should go for Trump and all the other oligarchs.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This should go for all citizens, if you trade then it should be public record. We should be able to see everyone's stock history in case they ever run for office we can look at their trading history to look for conflicts of interest.

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

That's a stretch. Normal citizens buying some nominal amount of shares of Company XYZ 5 years ago doesn't mean there's a conflict of interest now, especially if they were sold just as long ago. For if someone might run for office? 99.5% of people won't.

It's just undue surveillance on normal people.

[–] DarkWinterNights@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Confirmed already; $1-5M lunch buy-ins with corporate execs per head - the topic? Tariff exemptions.

Who cares about billions and trillions of wealth destruction of the public coffers when he can make millions per day personally?

[–] tal@lemmy.today 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

His stock transactions should be public record while president.

I think that it may be.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STOCK_Act

The Stop Trading on Congressional Knowledge (STOCK) Act of 2012 (Pub. L. 112–105 (text) (PDF), S. 2038, 126 Stat. 291, enacted April 4, 2012) is an Act of Congress designed to combat insider trading. It was signed into law by President Barack Obama on April 4, 2012. The law prohibits the use of non-public information for private profit, including insider trading, by members of Congress and other government employees. It confirms changes to the Commodity Exchange Act, specifies reporting intervals for financial transactions.

The STOCK Act was modified on April 15, 2013, by S. 716. This amendment modifies the online disclosure portion of the STOCK Act, so that some officials, but not the President, Vice President, Congress, or anyone running for Congress, can no longer file online and their records are no longer easily accessible to the public. In Section (a)2, the amendment specifically does not alter the online access for trades by the President, the Vice President, Congress, or those running for Congress.[23]

That being said, my guess is that there are probably trivial ways to game the transparency portion of the bill. Like, if I own a business, and the business holds stock rather than myself directly, I'll bet that no disclosure is required. And I bet that if you have a spouse or kids doing transactions, no disclosure is required.

Could still get in trouble for insider trading if it could be proven that you were doing so.

kagis

From Trump's first term:

https://www.npr.org/2016/12/22/506497041/trumps-businesses-could-be-tripped-up-by-a-2012-insider-trading-law

"If he continues to own his businesses and he uses insider information, or information he has as president, then arguably it's a violation of the STOCK Act," says Larry Noble, general counsel of the Campaign Legal Center, a nonpartisan advocacy group.

Trump has repeatedly said that he plans to turn over management of his businesses to his grown children once he is in the White House and play no role in operations himself.

"The STOCK Act says all executive branch employees are subject to the securities laws, Trump included," says New York University Law School professor Stephen Gillers.

The STOCK Act originally applied to the buying and selling of securities, such as stocks and bonds. But some legal experts say privately held companies such as the Trump Organization could also fall under its purview, especially if Trump transfers ownership to his children.

Because presidents are privy to an enormous amount of information that could affect stock prices, Trump would risk passing on inside information anytime he talks to his children, even if he doesn't intend to. That could open Trump, his children and businesses up to nearly constant allegations of insider trading.

Haven't been following the issue since then.

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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 49 points 3 days ago (3 children)
[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

He's clearly a Russian asset. Theres no rational thought or ideology here - he's just fucking shit up for fucking shit up sake and USA can't do anything about it.

[–] bradinutah@thelemmy.club 13 points 3 days ago

Donvict the OLD, Demented and Unreliable

[–] Eril@feddit.org 7 points 3 days ago

lol, this guy...

[–] Tac0caT@lemmy.world 51 points 4 days ago

The great negotiator says, “Oh yeah?! Well +1 to whatever you say! Times infinity!”

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well it was nice having... (checks notes)... metal.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] phar@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

What's wrong with the gravity in the future?

[–] unpossum@sh.itjust.works 39 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Does he think Detroit is in Canada?

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 49 points 4 days ago

Large parts of US car manufacturing went to Canada over the years as Detroit rotted. The problem is that tariffs won't bring it back, it will just bankrupt the car companies. Which is fine for Musk, not so much for everyone else.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 points 3 days ago

Detroit doesn't exist for him. There's something strange about the place which it's always located in a blind spot for him.

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is he raising tariffs on russia, though..

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

No, but he is removing the sanctions against them

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago

Whoa. That's a big fuckin tariff

Hold on to your butts yall we're having a Depression

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Trump needs to learn math. Once you have zero trade, another 50% has 0 effect.

[–] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Damn. Trump is doing a really good job punching himself in the cock.

I'd say he's doing a better job of punching everyone else in the cock while he has immunity from prosecution.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

welp rip to the us housing and automobile market. hope you weren't planning on buying a house or car anytime soon.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Thankfully I have a home and a good car so I am fine but I am pissed because I have nieces and nephews that are entering the world of parenthood and won't be able to buy a family vehicle or a starter house. This also kills any of my planned home renovations because I won't be able to afford lumber if the orange turd pisses off the Canadians further and tariffs lumber further.

Can I just say the idea of starter house is seeming really out of touch when most people in the country will never own a home.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

[–] match@pawb.social 12 points 4 days ago (5 children)

do you think trump actually believes he can sanction canada into surrendering national sovereignty or is this part of some idiot gambit to crash the us economy on purpose

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

It's just destruction and chaos to weaken Russia's competition.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Yes and yes. Putin engineered the situation to be a win for him in either case.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 2 points 3 days ago

He's seen up close how well it's worked on Russia.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

Getting Canada to surrender sovereignty is the bit. Crashing the economy is a happy coincidence for him. The true goal is profiting from the chaos in between it all.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

His negotiation strategy is to demand 1 billion dollars and settle for $3.50. which is fine when you're a TV personality, less so when you have nuclear weapons.

[–] Mbourgon@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

can we just give him a dollar?

[–] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Canadian Metal? Oh no! What will Annihilator, Voivod and Anvil do now?

[–] brezel@piefed.social 6 points 4 days ago

team up with archspire!

[–] serpineslair@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Ayo join the club buddy! !thrashmetal@lemmy.world. Nice to find a metalhead out in the wild. (Sorry for the shameless plug ;) ).

[–] quilan@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

I'm still crying because Martyr broke up ages ago, how can they do this to me now!

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Just living in Lordran at the end of the Age of Fire it seems. Trump's gone hollow.

[–] match@pawb.social 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

do we rekindle the bonfire of capitalism, or do we extinguish it

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

That thing, your Civil Rights, give it to me.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Such a great Deal Artist^TM^

[–] lipilee@feddit.nl 2 points 3 days ago

are you saying nordic metal riffs are now turning into nordic metal tariffs?

You can't fight stupid, because stupid is unpredictable and obeys no clear logic.

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