My love for unions eclipses my hatred for the TSA on this one.
this post was submitted on 07 Mar 2025
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The destruction of one union harms all unions.
Well except for one.
Yeah, pig unions deserve to roast.
TSA is way more like mall security than police tho.
ACAB all the way, and TSA is little more than a hollow performance, basically security flavored LaCroix that ought to be abolished as genuinely wasteful and needlessly degrading and inconvenient to travelers.
But I don't really see TSA agents as cops. I'm sure the line blurs in some specific cases, but they're not going around murdering people with impunity like cops do.
Sort of my feelings here. This isn't like the FBI or CIA that actively go around trying to fuck people over. Airports wouldn't function if they acted like that and politicians LOVE to fly.
But also, the TSA is a place we need to defund and mostly dismantle. There's no reason an airport needs so much security theater other than it makes rich people feel good. They need about as much security as a subway does (not much).
That said, they aren't first on my list for "defund the police". That honor belongs to ICE.
Police Unions are gangs. Not labor unions.
Pretty sure you misunderstood op. They're saying their hatred of TSA is overshadowed by their love of unions meaning they think this is bad because as the other person said, harm to one union harms all unions.
I may be stupid and unable to read but at least I don’t work for the TSA.
Remember, it's not a right if it can be taken away! Your right to collectively bargain comes from the fact that there are hundreds of you and one of him, not because he "allowed" it.
Then striking workers have no legal protections, either. Better than no strikes, but we've basically lost 100 years of progress.
Lest we forget how we got here. Strikes and collective bargaining were the compromise.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_violence_in_the_United_States
We need to go back.
The fun thing about wildcat strikes though is that you don't need legal protections for them to work. See new York's illegal prison strike for a good recent example.
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Yeap but apparently there are hundreds ofn thousands of sheep or wolves that like to be trampled
TSA could strike and airports would be better for it... That's a dangerous game for the admin to play.
I think that's part of the strategy here. "Look at this, I busted up this union and now flying is the most enjoyable it has ever been"
Edit: another piece of this is how much money would be saved by liquidating the TSA.
I know five or six people who work for the TSA, and every one of them are MAGA
I know five or six people who work for the TSA, and every one of them are MAGA
And yet it's very likely they won't put two and two together to figure out the sitting Republican president is responsible for their weakened union. Still, this couldn't have happened to more deserving people.
Odds are they didn't like the Union in the first place.
Didn’t you hear? It’s all Biden’s fault that Trump is being forced to do this. That’s good enough for them.
That won't happen though. They won't be replaced with anyone, there will be massive delays instead.
But very few people will side with the TSA on this anyway.
The way the TSA strikes is by causing massive delays for passengers going through security. The last time they did that, the security line at Atlanta international was 2 and a half hours long at times. It wound all the way back to the check in.
Pardon my ignorance, but how does this even work? Like, don't they just walk off the job collectively until someone is willing to negotiate with them?
That's how unions are supposed to work. It's really the only bargaining chip workers have, at least until we can all be 100% replaced by ai and robots...
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Americans are so corporatized that they mistakenly think the power of unions comes from the government
Which is pretty effective propaganda.
Union busters have spent a lot of money to make it feel that way.
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The "protection" is the government not firing people for collective bargaining or collective actions. This is similar to when Reagan fired a bunch of ATC strikers and ever since then we've had a massive shortage of ATC personnel.
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Okay, so he revoked the collective bargaining rights. He didn't revoke the ability to go out on strike, though. It just won't be an organized strike.
Weren't strikes the compromise to the other option, namely dragging the owners out of the factory and beating them in the streets? Maybe they just want to go back to the original system.
Just remember:
When beating your boss, use a bag of Florida oranges. They hurt like the devil and don't leave a mark.
Just a heads up that beating your boss will leave a bruise but go ahead and do it anyways
Bing Crosby is that you?
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Naw they'll still be organized too. The strikers just don't have legal protections anymore.
Hang on, I'm probably crazy but Im seeing a trend here.... Are they hoping for another 9/11? Cuz I could totally see them trying for another 9/11. TSA ain't even that effective so it's not really about them existing or not, but more about the idea, that it could happen again
Possibly, Putin had an allegedly staged terror attack early on to drum up support
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings
And Trump seems to be following his playbook to the T.
But the thing about Trump, is that he'll have to out do 9/11, his ego won't allow anything less.
That is what terrifies me
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considering how 9/11 made the American people so eager to embrace fascism, yeah why not?
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The TSA never provided any tangible increase in airport security. DOGE could have started here.
Yeah, planes have been falling out of the sky pretty regularly lately without assistance from terrorists.
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STRIKE TSA!!!!! Don’t let them do this to you.
I would so love for every single TSA worker to walk out in protest of this fuckery
Trump was open about his hatred for unions and worker rights leading up to the election and working Americans still showed up and made him president.
I can't even blame this one on Trump. For once he was actually honest about his intentions. This is all on stupid Americans.
Oh look, leopards at the airport
Fuck em. Shut down the airports.
How does anyone control one’s ability to collectively bargain. Seems like a demand the group makes and doesn’t require permission for.
How can he unilaterally do this? How has he been given or taken this much power?
How has he been given or taken this much power?
Well.
One of Congress' jobs is to reign in the power of the president and make sure the branches of government are balanced.
Congress is controlled by Republicans.
Republicans are spineless cowards.
They've given up their Congressional powers to their felon rapist traitor daddy.
You are literally witnessing the collapse of the U.S. federal government to an authoritarian. Because it can, in fact, happen here.
so the orange skin bag with the tumbleweed toupee is the dude 'in charge', but his dom is actually the south african nazi so he holds the reins; nazi dom was given the role because he has money and no morals, which aligns with republican 'values' of being spineless, unintelligent, and greedy
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