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[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I'm young and I fucking hate apps. I have android phone without a google account which works well for the most part. I'm too dumb to install LineageOS. and Linux phones aren't really an option in the US.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

also those who dont want to install that spyware shit on their phones. Even if you dont care about the data collection it still consumes battery faster as more and more data is being transferred

[–] benjaminb@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago

McDonald’s (in Germany at least) needs your location to “see when you arrive at the restaurant”. What the hell?! That doesn’t even work properly and they force it on me! I uninstalled the app and now I am actually happy, because without the promotion and discount stuff, I don’t eat McDanks that often anymore.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I flat-out refuse to do business with any that requires I use an app. I won't even scan a QR code for a restaurant menu; that's my cue to go eat elsewhere.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I don't mind the whole online menu thing. It's probably an environmental net positive, but it's bs if they don't have ANY physical copies for those who can't or don't want to for whatever reason.

If they wanted me to install something, though, that'd be a 100% instant nope.

[–] Dhs92@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I mean I simply refuse to as QR code phishing is a thing

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

they make older phones become useless after ditching their support

[–] Stegget@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

My S21 is on the verge of losing regular security updates, and I hate it. The battery is fine, the camera is more than adequate, I do not want to upgrade.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you don't have a smart phone in the US, even temporally, your almost a second class citizen.

Then if you don't install corporate apps on your phone, there are even more problems for you.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 2 weeks ago

You can still live in the US without apps... For now

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Any time I'm required to use an app for something that could be a website, I leave the app a one star review.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Phone apps are nothing more than modern toolbars. And in case you forgot or missed this phase of the internet...

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Click to win a FREE LOBSTER Dinner 🦀🦞🦐

Man I miss this era of the internet. It truly felt like a new frontier.

I clicked, but all I got was a dancing stripper and something called Conficker.

[–] terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

Peak internet wdym

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

everyone wants to force you to use apps instead of websites, despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of apps are just websites..in a app wrapper, because normal websites and normal browsers have inbuilt protections for you.

Apps don't.

Idiots install apps, give them the 400,000 permissions they ask for, then go on their merry way..ignorant to the fact that they just installed a data vacuum on their phone thats siphoning everything off of it to be used and sold and resold for marketing purposes.. Even the phone itself its not safe, cause its sitting there, listening to your conversations, even when not on a call, to more "Accurately" spam you with bullshit.

[–] commander@lemmings.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

because normal websites and normal browsers have inbuilt protections for you.

Ding ding ding.

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

It’s also a gigantic information harvesting ploy.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

THIS IS ACTUALLY SO REAL FUCKING SMARTPHONES I HATE STEVE JOBS FUCK YOU WHY DID YOU RUIN TECHNOLOGY.

ok rant over, but seriously though, it's so fucked how you basically just need a smartphone to do ANYTHING these days. I don't want a phone, i have no use for one.

[–] Ronno@feddit.nl 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not sure if we can really blame Steve Jobs for this though, he wasn't around when things turned to shit. The iPhone he introduced was merely a phone, web browser, email and music player.

I think it's fair if we blame Tim Apple for this and the other big tech CEO's of the recent past.

it was his idea, his vision. I blame him post mortem, because steve would've wanted the ecosystem to work flawlessly, and regardless of whether or not he was here today, we would have the same problem.

[–] Unbecredible@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

sounds like you DO have a use for one...

i mean sure, but do i WANT to use it for that? No, i just want to fucking pay for my shit and leave. I don't want your stupid little QR codes, i don't want your silly little NFC, just accept card or fuck off.

Just because you can invent some schizophrenic use for a smartphone, doesn't mean i have a use for it.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As I've been making an effort to replace apps with the browser version of the service. It's so abundantly clear that companies don't want you using their website.

Even if they don't outright cripple functionality, they'll hound you endlessly to install the app.

It's infuriating to say the least.

[–] finder585@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Even if they don’t outright cripple functionality, they’ll hound you endlessly to install the app.

Still don't understand the logic of doing that.

It's like saying,

"Our website is nigh unusable, please install our app instead. We pinky promise our app works".

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Even if I was willing to download all of those apps I don't have room for them. They chew up 50-300mb each (why!?) and if I installed all of them I'd run out of memory. Since most phones now don't support memory expansion I have to be picky about which ones I use.

I have THREE separate parking apps because I travel.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The reason they're so huge is

  1. They're generally not well optimized by the creators.
  2. They all contain their own dependencies
  3. There's a LOT of stuff in them (both code and dependencies). Which is kind of an optimization problem, but potato potato.
[–] kayazere@feddit.nl 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Mobile apps are also loaded with third party ad and spyware frameworks which bloats up the size.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago

Same thing with rendering/layout/functionality frameworks. And each app has their own.

My favorite Android app, Trail Sense, which has the ability to know when sunrise and sunset are without Internet, is like 10MB

[–] recursive_recursion@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

A mobile app requirement is an easy excuse for me to nope the fuck out.

[–] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yep, the homeless pay more!

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Not having a phone really sucks in this day and age. Imagine getting out of jail for something stupid like marijuana possession and then a parole violation due to a missed appointment. No one will hire you with your rap sheet. You live in a halfway house with a bunch of petty BS every day. And you can't keep up with your parole demands because of how much your lack of a phone gets in your way. At the end of the day, there IS a way to succeed if you make the right choices, but shit, it's just so much harder for some people to make the right choices when every day is crisis mode. And all because of WHAT?

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There should be a warning label on any establishment or product that requires a smartphone to use.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

How about this:

At the apartments I recently moved out of, there were no quarter slots on the washing machines. They were an app that required a bluetooth connection to pay.

So if you lived there and didn't have a smartphone? Go fuck yourself, you don't get to do laundry.

Unless you bothered to check the laundry room when you were looking at the apartment, you wouldn't know. No warnings.

[–] white_nrdy@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

Tbf, my building also uses an app for laundry. However they also have a machine in the laundry rooms where you can purchase an NFC payment card and put money on it. So you can use it without the app. Is that not the case with yours? If not, that's 100% fucked

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

quarter slots on the washing machines

Thank god they decided to keep these free where I live

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That...

Is that not illegal where you live?