"non-human" is not the same as "non-terrestrial". We've shot a lot of non-human "biological material" into space.
this post was submitted on 26 Jul 2023
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Or leather seats, random bacteria that hitched a ride, etc. Hell, plastics are derived from biological material and could qualify if you really stretch your definition. It's a nothing statement.
Unless the non-human material was associated with the discovery of a UFO then there's no reason to think it's not just animal matter.
I believe UFOs have been seen, but that shit is just experimental aircraft kept secret either by government projects or private research organizations.
I remember there was a big wave of UFO sightings in the 90s, people talking about aircraft moving in super nimble ways that aircraft shouldn't be able to move and that sort of thing, and then 20 years later we had drones.
I definitely wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these sightings were early attempts at drones long before we knew about them, they're smaller than aircraft of course but people might not have understood how far away they were, especially at night.
I remember when I was younger RC plane and helicopter community was all about doing night flights with lots of lights and other things on their vehicles. I remember seeing tricking stuff on the fronts of RC hobby magazines with guides on how to do it.
Around 2018, I built an 8” scale model of the flying saucer from The Day The Earth Stood Still.
Trolling alien buffs with that thing was fun. Also the cop that lined to sit in a park’s lot across from my apartment building.
(It had a stack of 4 175mm x 15mm EDFs that I printed inside. Attitude was controlled by counter rotation for yaw and bypass air being throttled pitch and roll. It had no external moving parts and the duct was all “hiden” inside curves
Experiments aircraft that can accelerate and change directions at Mach 2 ?
Am I crazy here? Did the whole world not see the gimbal and tic tic videos.
It's almost as if it's a cultural phenomenon. And the map reflects population density of english speakers. https://xkcd.com/1138/
This doesn't prove anything other than susceptible people are relatively evenly distributed.
Or maybe that the aliens speak english ;)
That comic is not applicable. You don't have to speak english to report or see a UFO. That doesn't make any sense. What it does tell us (to follow the language thread) is english-speakers seem more susceptible to believing they saw it. It's a cultural issue is the implication.
This doesn’t prove anything other than susceptible people are relatively evenly distributed.
The point is the susceptible people are heavily concentrated in the US and the UK. Arguably Australia/NZ. How on earth is this map evenly distributed to you?
Think about what language the UFO pop culture is produced in. It's not that english speakers are more susceptible due to the language itself, but rather, they've been consuming media about UFOs in english. Thus the map is effectively a heat map showing the population of english speakers.
Or do UFOs not cross the Rio Grande? ;)
So I think you're missing the point because I agree. The implication is all of these sightings are nonsense/not real, the public is just really susceptible in these areas for the exact reasons you and I are talking about.
Notice the comment I was initially responding to. It's the kind of video that would make an english speaker's imagination run wild
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Ha all good. Also sorry "you're missing the point" is a little more abrasive phrasing than I initially intended.
Yes I have seen them. Even if these aircraft are real, I suspect the capabilities have been exaggerated. The footage is grainy as hell and could be some sort of illusion.
They totally could be real. But either way, I don't see any reason why humans couldn't create such technology. And if they did I'm sure they would be inclined to keep it secret.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsEjV8DdSbs - Gimbal is people not understanding how gimbal cameras work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cThB1zfynHQ - Tic Tac is people not understanding how planes work with low res digital zoom.
The Tic tac was seen, with their eyes, by four different military pilots. It was also captured in multiple different sensor arrays, data that has been classified. The video is the only thing available because it was leaked, but there is other sensor data that corroborates both the video and the pilot's testimony. We don't have access to that data only because the military doesn't want us to.
Not crazy, just ignorant.
Like plant or animal material?
Sentient plant material. Like a Venus flytrap only with more of an attitude
Venusian Guy Trap
I saw that documentary!
There was a lot more singing than I expected.
Which movie was that?
There are flies on Venus? 🥵
David Grush says it was "Dead pilots"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Grusch_UFO_whistleblower_claims
David Grusch also says the Pope helped smuggle a UFO out of Mussolini's Italy to the U.S. and I have no idea why anyone gives someone who says something that nutty any credibility.
Someone on the other site posted some shit about alien biology. They were very clear that the program they worked for was heavily compartmentalized and that they only worked on dead tissue samples. The whole thing seemed ok I guess until the end when this person started talking about aliens religious beliefs. But if the program was so restricted, how tf did they know about their religious beliefs???
It's kind of incredible anyone believes these people.
Literally all of the evidence I have been able to find backing his claims is him saying "just trust me this definitely happened." He hasn't shown any documents. He claims to have them, and that he'll give them to congress, but has not publicly released them.
It's your standard conspiracy grift- make up something that's plausible for you specifically to know, back it up with nothing because there's nothing to back it up with, do the media circuit spreading your bullshit, sell a bunch of books, retire.
His entire argument to congress is basically "the military isn't telling you about everything they do, and I say they have alien bodies and spacecraft" which... yeah, I 100% believe that the military doesn't tell everything they do to congress because congress is full of people who would openly release classified materials to the public just to do it. It makes logical sense for the military not to tell them all of the programs they have going at any given time, even if I think that isn't constitutional and shouldn't actually be allowed. That doesn't prove anything though.
He's trying to use the military hiding information from congress to back up his claim that they have an alien bodies program and it just doesn't work. But stupid people will happily eat it up though!
Unless the military actually releases info that corroborates what he is saying I'm not going to believe a word of it.
Except that he has delivered classified documents and evidence to authorities with the right clearances? Of course he can't just publish classified documents, unless he wants to end up like Snowden. He is following the correct procedures for whistleblowers, and that's why you get to see nothing but people with the right clearences do. Multiple congressmen have had classified briefings on the subject and they don't think Grusch is lying.
Dude seems to be selling his story all over the place.
The US government then came in and said he's not revealing any classified material. Which is government speak for dude is lying his ass off, but we don't actually care enough to deny anything that he's claiming, because that would just fuel more conspiracy theory bullshit.
If he actually believes his own bullshit, then he has serious mental issues.
Dude's said a lot of things. And has provided precisely zero evidence.
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Sorry for the long text, TL;DR at the end.
Maybe I'm wrong or saw it incorrectly, but the feeling I got about that hearing was that there were many people with different ideas on what the topic was about and nothing was actually answered.
Some reps were asking about extraterrestrial lifeforms and spaceships, some others about UAPs made by enemy countries that could potentially pose a threat to the US national security, some others talked about the Chinese ballon and the incompetence of the government when dealing with those events (which kinda falls into the previous point, but it was more of critique to the government rather than a question IMO)
Then the "whistleblower" (the one that talked a lot and said nothing) was just focusing in wanting some kind of place/means/way to report those kinds of incidents with UAPs/UFOs anonymously because they faced what he called "administrative terrorism", and the other two seemed to literally just want to talk about UFOs and spaceships.
The "whistleblower" didn't really say anything outside of "I can't confirm nor deny that in an open setting, I'll gladly give you the information in a closed one", there was nothing substantial about that hearing IMO.
Non-human biological material =/= extraterrestrial material, and in one of the questions, which was something along the lines of "where did you get that info?" He basically replied with a "just trust me bro, I've talked to some people".
DISCLAIMERS: I stopped listening to it after about 4 hours and a half, so I don't know if he said anything substantial after that. Also, English is not my first language so if I made any mistakes or am talking out of my ass, do call me out on it.
TL;DR: IMO that hearing was just a waste of time and nothing of importance was said.
If they determine it's just random animals, the conspiracy nutters will claim it's the cows that the UFOs beamed up .
Leave Laika to rest. She was a very good cosmonaut.
When is someone gonna at least provide a photo or video or other proof of this shit they keep saying exists?
Even a couple dudes who have hacked into the DOD or other systems and claimed to have found documents of this kinda stuff never actually showed those documents to anyone. What was the point of breaking in and taking it then?!
They're just people looking for attention.
Ask yourself - why did everyone got to see photos of the Chinese spy balloon, but nothing of the other 3 objects that were subsequently shot down by F22's? The military most surely has photos of those objects also, why haven't they showed them?
What the whistleblowers have been saying is that the government has indisputable evidence in the form of photos, videos, sattelite images, radar tracks, and even recovered crafts and bodies. If you haven't seen any of that evidence, it's because they don't want you to see it. Multiple congressmen have seen it in classified briefings and talked about it, the evidence you want does exist.
I want to believe aliens created a space ship beyond our comprehension and then got to earth and immediately crashed into a tree. I want to believe in intergalactic slapstick comedy.
Like, grass?
Is it from one of the dogs Russia left in space to die?
Bob Lazar 2.0
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