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[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 115 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I hate the fact that the vertical axis starts at 7 million, making the drop seem deceptively large

[–] ekky@sopuli.xyz 26 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Seems fine to me, the axes are easy to understand and there would be a lot of unnecessary whitespace otherwise. Though, it does require some reading comprehension, and that one actually looks at it and not just skims over.

[–] hikaru755@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago

I agree that this way of displaying the data is appropriate, but it would be nice to have a very visible indicator of this. Some kind of highlighted "fold" line or something at the very bottom of the chart, maybe. If I can deduce the units from context, and the trend is more interesting than absolute numbers, then I'm not going to look at the axes most of the time

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

This reading comprehension joke it overused and it doesn't even make sense here. It's well-known that you need at least one of those little zigzag indicators when the graph doesn't start at 0 in most cases to avoid people misinterpreting the graph and to make it much more visually clear.

[–] ekky@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I was of the impression that reading a graph also required understanding of regular writing/reading, but I'm no native speaker, so I'll gladly stand corrected.

I'm not sure what you mean by "one of those little zigzag indicators", do you perhaps mean leap/break in data denoted by the "Squiggle"? I don't think any data below 7m is included in this graph, so, if I understand you correctly, then that wouldn't be a proper use of said squiggle.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, I mean an axis break to denote that part of the axis has been omitted. Using it to show a gap between 0 and the lowest included data in the dataset is very common and is a proper use even according to your own source:

A zigzag on the line of the x- or y-axis in a line or a bar graph indicating that the data being displayed does not include all of the values that exist on the number line being used

Beginning the Y axis at 0 and using an axis break to go from there to 7 million allows you to see the same amount of detail as you can in the OP, while visually signalling to the reader that the scale on that axis does not show a full 0 to 10 million range. This increases the chance that they'll read the graph correctly. You can justifiably blame someone for reading it wrong, but the point of a graph is to communicate, so minimizing the chance for misinterpretation is a good idea.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 57 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Seems like a major server not reporting their numbers.

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 73 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

A 20% drop in use on American Thanksgiving doesn't seem even remotely outlandish to me

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 25 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I still doubt we make 9 millions posts per day, there is another graph dedicated to comments, which has a much tinier drop on Thanksgiving: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats

[–] shottymcb@lemm.ee 18 points 3 weeks ago

I'm pretty sure ThePicardManuever posts 9 million times a day.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Well, yeah. Posters actually put in effort. Commenters are lazy people who just shit out their terrible opinions.

[–] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

Yea well, that’s just like, your opinion, man

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Commenters are the worst.

Especially the ones that have custom profiles with names and shit.

Like Bro you aren't fooling anyone, we all know you aren't really a squid that flies.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

you can have profile pictures??

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I dunno if people would post so much for upvotes alone. Comments are nice, and I get friendly ones pretty frequently on my posts, and try to leave just as many on others posts :)

Edit: wait, I think I just wooshed myself

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[–] blibla@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

this looks more like total posts tbh

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

For sure; I sure wasn't on my phone at all that day, and I'm usually on Lemmy daily. Too busy cooking and mingling with family.

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[–] Revonult@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's Thanksgiving. Either a massive drop in posters due to travel or family or whoever was sending the data was similarly out.

[–] SatyrSack@feddit.org 7 points 3 weeks ago

I had definitely noticed things were more quiet than usual on English Lemmy, so I figured it was just the Americans being busy with that.

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[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 23 points 3 weeks ago

Sorry. That was me. I ate them all.

[–] jace525@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago

Thanksgiving?

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's Thanksgiving. A lot of people visiting with friends/family. Idk how to access the numbers but I'd imagine last year was about the same

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 8 points 3 weeks ago

I still doubt we make 9 millions posts per day, there is another graph dedicated to comments, which has a much tinier drop on Thanksgiving: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats

[–] pcouy@lemmy.pierre-couy.fr 15 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Something's odd with the numbers from fediverse observer. Numbers shown in monthly graphs should be about 30 times higher than numbers shown in daily graphs, but they are about the same

[–] wiki_me@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

I always assumed its daily reporting of monthly active users. the nodeinfo format that is used for reporting the data does not show daily active users iirc (it is seemingly capable of reporting weekly users).

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[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

We were busy those nights, and if you didn't get the memo it's best to stop asking questions while you still can.

[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, I always thought of OP as someone in the Lemmy's loop. I guess it doesn't know everything...

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[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This should say total posts, not average, right?

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I am thinking it is probably comments and not posts as well.

[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There's a separate graph on that page for comments, which are up around 17 million.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

10 million comments by 40k or so active daily users seems incredibly high.

[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

This is showing the total number of posts, not just new ones. The title is really misleading...

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 5 points 3 weeks ago

Is it? That would make more sense. And then, the number of posts would go down if a very large instance would not report for a day (huge instance in this case, we are talking an instance with 2 millions posts out of 9)?

[–] bruhbeans@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We need to post harder, not smarter

[–] BetaDoggo_@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Probably just a reporting bug. Comments stayed consistent.

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[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)
[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Assuming it’s not a bug, maybe Americans busy with Thanksgiving? I know I was on less as a result

[–] actually@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

I’m thinking that, a lot of users were hanging out with relatives and traveling.

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[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Haha, I did. I still posted a few, but I was out of town with family for days and was barely on my phone.

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

som kind of bot going down maybe?

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[–] Lazycog@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

People preparing xmas gifts and planning for holidays?

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

That looks much more like a data artifact than an accurate representation of behavior.

I think that the trajectory of the three low dots matches the overall slope very closely in a way that looks far more like a flat subtraction of all three. If it was behavioral, I think you'd see the behavior come and go over the course of several days.

[–] vikingtons@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe it was some sort of federation issue?

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[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ik Lemmy is a small social media,is this why I feel like Lemmy is dead.

[–] isles@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We've been conditioned by endless scrolls, for sure.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago
[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago

Friday Saturday right?

We're all lemmying for the weekend

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