Lemmys been a great alternative, hope it starts to take off
this post was submitted on 21 Jul 2023
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Starts? My sibling in Christ, it's happening already.
My lemmitard in christ it hasnt happened yet. We are only a small .1% of crossovers and the whole fediverse is still less populated than r/malefashion advice.
It is not the number of users. It is quality of interaction. And I argue that it is already here (kbin user). Yes, it still misses such things like subreddit for a particular obscure game, but the overall experience is great.
Right — on Reddit, if you didn’t get to a post within say the first hour or so*, you were going to be banished to a vast wasteland of unseen comments with only one upvote.
Even if you did, well, your comment best be damned clever, funny, or interesting to be interacted with much.
This basically feels like a less lonely Reddit.
Mastodon also has this vibe for me (vs twitter). Basically, the superstar economy effect is less strong.
*or piggyback on an existing top-rated comment (trying to make one’s own relevant to it, or “hijacking” it)
I 100% agree. I sometimes think of le funniest heehee hohos on reddit and i get 2 upvotes. Lemmy hits that dopamine a little harder with smaller number of users.
You can talk about quality all you want, but if the room you wanna be in is empty you're going to leave. You need a ton of users to populate the smaller communities that people will stick around for, not just the meme and porn threads.
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I think a lot of people who sign up end up staying. I find my interaction on Reddit diminishes more and more and usage of lemmy keeps going up
I agree, and can’t wait for it to trickle down to less popular interests. I find it to be wanting with some subjects.
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By any measure, Lemmy/Kbin has already started to take off. Rome wasn't built in a day, nor was Reddit.
You don't need everyone for it to take off. It's started. You also can't look at sub subscribers because there are a lot of dead accounts.
Someone needs to start a male fashion advice community and get them all over here then.
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That is the worst metric for whether something is "taking off" or not. Reddit wasn't built in a day, and the fediverse won't be either.
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Props to the mods for sticking to their guns.
Who knew the strongest wills were in the male fashion industry.
But why male models?
Because they are the very model of a modern moderator.
... But why male models?
Are you serious? I just told you that a moment ago!
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Fashion is not for sissies
-Michael Kors
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Definitely. The mods that pretended to give a damn and then punking out were extremely disappointing.
It's fine enough to disagree with the protests over 3rd party apps. And at the end of the day it is such a small issue. But if you're going to do something, be about it.
The Reddit debacle continues as it replaces the r/malefashionadvice subreddit moderators following their refusal to reopen to the public.
Reddit followed through on its threat to take over subreddits if they did not reopen to the public with its takeover of r/malefashionadvice on Thursday. Prior to closing down in protest of Reddit’s API price changes. The subreddit was one of the biggest on the platform that was still engaged in the protest, boasting more than five million subscribers.
Reddit reached out to moderators telling them if they didn’t reopen their subreddits they would be in violation of the company’s moderator code and could be replaced. “We more or less have been expecting the removal for the past few days,” one former moderator of r/malefashionadvice, who asked to go by “Walker,” told The Verge.
A Reddit administrator warned r/malefashionadvice it would be replaced if it didn’t reopen and a month later, it stayed true to its word and took over the platform. The subreddit originally had three moderators but was replaced on Thursday with just one, ModCodeofConduct. Reddit users can once again browse the content on r/malefashionadvice, but it will be in a restricted mode that prohibits all but certain users from making new posts.
Although ModCodeofConduct has taken over the subreddit, the mod posted a call for people to volunteer to become a moderator for the page on Friday, telling people to comment on the post to volunteer.
ModCodeofConduct has also taken over other subreddits including r/ShittyLifeProTips, r/AccidentalRenaissance, r/oldbabies, r/fordtransit, and others.
Major Reddit moderators went dark last month in protest of the company’s announcement that it would be raising its API prices, saying it was necessary because Big Tech companies like Microsoft and Google are using its data to train AI models. The site’s API allows other companies to use data from Reddit to bolster their own products and services, but the change would mean a large surcharge for premium access.
Nearly 9,000 subreddits temporarily shut down on June 12 in protest, but in a group statement, moderators said, “Others will go away permanently unless the issue is adequately addressed since many moderators aren’t able to put in the work they do with the poor tools available through the official app,” The Guardian reported. It continued, “This isn’t something any of us do lightly: we do what we do because we love Reddit, and we truly believe this change will make it impossible to keep doing what we love.” More from Gizmodo Star Trek: Strange New Worlds Is Ready to Start Moving On A Comic-Con Mystery Is Revealed to Be a Massive, Sci-Fi Blockbuster A Mysterious Object in Deep Space Has Blinked Every 22 Minutes for Over 30 Years In the Latest Trailer for The Marvels, Ms. Marvel Gets to Save the Universe With Her Heroes
That article has some spin loaded in there.
“Major Reddit moderators went dark last month in protest of the company’s announcement that it would be raising its API prices, saying it was necessary because…”
Bullshit bwana! They instituted OSFA pricing, when prior it was free.
Get the fucking facts straight before publishing, ya gits.
They instituted OSFA pricing, when prior it was free.
Even that, while technically true doesn't paint the full picture. Let me try:
They cut off the API to everyone: 3rd-party apps, disabled users, mods who use tools to moderate (that don't exist on Reddit). Then, they priced access to the that API so high that basically no 3rd-party could afford it.
This is cutting off the API to practically everyone (in practice, if not in action) ahead of their planned IPO. And because they want to charge for the LLM AI's that use Reddit content for training...
It wasn't just that, they followed with other changes that alienated mods and users. The API thing was just the beginning of a campaign. It's not even something new, this kind of downfall has happened before when social media sites prioritize profit above community. They had a good run and outlasted those that preceded them, but evidently the cycle is doomed to repeat.
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The comments on the post the mods made yesterday about discord are awful. “Get over yourselves,” “Spez owned you guys,” “Why would we go to Didcord, we chose Reddit.” They’re all from accounts that are 8+ years old that have never interacted on MFA or didn’t start commenting until Rexxit started.
Did you coin "Rexxit"? Because, it's a thing of beauty.
Sadly I didn’t, it came about pretty early on.
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They're half right. Discord is a horrible platform. It's idiotic most of these mods are suggesting it.
Oh yeah no, I don’t disagree that going to discord of all places is a horrible idea. I hate discord and I hate that people are trying to use it as community alternatives, but the real issue is the Reddit apologism.
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Do you think spez or anyone else making these decisions have woken up at night to realize they messed up yet? I'm voting nah.
Spez is just trying to make Reddit as profitable as possible before jumping ship. He doesn’t care what happens to Reddit, just what it can get him.
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How did he mess up? He's cashing out and burning the place down behind him. This is all standard practice in vulture capitalism. It happens every day, but you don't see or care because most of the companies it happens to aren't centered around a social platform you spend all your free time on.
He's not cashing out with the best possible circumstances is how he messed up. That's like saying Elon bought Twitter at a highly inflated price and then crashing and burning all the advertising is doing a great job. Twitter is sinking into the abyss very slowly. It'll still be around in a year or so but right now Twitter is only worth 1/4 of what Elon paid. Spez already lost like 20% of Reddit's value after all of his sweet changes. These guys are idiots.
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I see this as a good thing. Now Reddit has to bear the cost. Even if they find replacement volunteers, some employee still has to make that happen. Likely several. It’s costing them. And that’s what the goal was. To weigh them down.
I was hoping every mod would walk away. All at once. Like you say you can run it all, there you go.
The subreddit originally had three moderators but was replaced on Thursday with just one, ModCodeofConduct.
I’m guessing u/Modcodeofconduct is a bot.
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I love the bias in the article, like the 3rd party apps were basically just stealing revenue. And understating exactly how insane the api prices were too
Man I hope people volunteer and then immediately take the subreddit private again
Get selected as a mod and private the community again, it’ll make for hilarious headlines and look wonderful for their IPO.
What a useless headline. They could write it hundreds more times for the hundreds of other subs still in revolt.
But not every such sub has >5 million members - this one is big.
MFA was one of my fave subs so I decided to check out what happened since this forced reopening. The pinned thread asking for mod volunteers is being trolled right now. I love it.
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