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[–] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 72 points 3 days ago (4 children)

You got to love this. The Pentagon just failed its 7th audit in a row. It has a budget of $1tr. And yet the cost savings team decides that penny pinching by making life harder for workers is where the real savings are to be found. Not the giant black hole of finance which is the military industrial complex.

[–] Yokozuna@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago

Noooo shhhhh, we're not supposed to talk about HOW THE PENTAGON HAS NEVER PASSED AN AUDIT. We're supposed to be talking about the border, come on people, get it together.

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[–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 259 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I agree! If Elon musk cannot show up to his offices at Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter, xAI, and Washington for 8 hours Monday-Friday, he should be fired without severance as CEO or co-chair of his government department.

[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 45 points 4 days ago

Rules for thee, not for me.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 28 points 3 days ago (2 children)

But there's literally no reason to end that if staying home still gets work done

[–] Deway@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It doesn't give the same feeling of power to the people in charge if they don't see the ~~drones~~ workers sweat.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yup. It's all about that sense of control. That's what they're paying for. I saw a quote from a survey of execuitives: "I don't know if my employees are walking their dogs for 4 hours per day when they're working from home, but I know they can't walk their dog when they're in the office".

Keep in mind, business execuitives are known to believe shit like, "when I go to the gym, that's work, because I need to be healthy for the business".

They believe they own us. They believe they deserve to.

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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

Office real estate.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/adigaskell/2023/03/05/how-remote-work-has-affected-real-estate-values/

This has had an understandable impact on office values, which fell considerably and remain below 2019. The author believes these valuations will remain below those levels for the next decade.

Simulations of office values, that took into account remote work rates, show that the value of all NYC office properties dropped by more than 40% in 2020. Predictions for 10 years after the shift to working from home suggest that office values in 2029 will remain an average of 39% lower than they were in 2019.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago

The asswipes, Elon and Vivek, own several empty office buildings.

[–] Gerprimus@feddit.org 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)

How many days do you think it will take until he calls for unions to be declared illegal?

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Depends how much Musks's companies try to unionize.

[–] Srh@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

He is already arguing the NLRB is unconstitutional.

[–] DankDingleberry@lemmy.world 163 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"Requiring federal employees to come to the office five days a week would result in a wave of voluntary terminations that we welcome". this is and was always the reason american businesses were eager to force everybody back tp work. eat the rich.

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago

Don't forget to include giving middle-management a reason to exist as well as justifying the commercial properties expenses! Man do I hate capitalism...

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 194 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Unless Musk somehow copied himself several times, he is working remote for most of his companies each day.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 136 points 4 days ago (14 children)

ROFL.

That's hilarious. You actually think Musk works?

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[–] resetbypeer@lemmy.world 71 points 4 days ago (7 children)

So, he and his cabinet will be working 8 hours a day at least 5 days a week in DC ? Can we get that in written please ?

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[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 59 points 3 days ago

Saying the quiet part out loud again.

They believe that us not being forced to do what they want simply because they want it is a "privilege," and one that they can and will just arbitrarily decree to be null and void.

That says pretty much everything you meed to know about what they really think about everyone other than themselves.

And ironically enough, what they think is that they themselves are privileged.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 5 points 3 days ago

Please!
But oh no here come the liberals again to tell us how that would hurt the economy and people need to be able to buy stuff. And that this just still isn't the right time to make a big fuss.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 151 points 4 days ago

Fuck you both

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So they'll be coming in every day to their offices in Washington right?

...right?

[–] Suburbanl3g3nd@lemmings.world 14 points 3 days ago

It's interesting they have multiple offices. Offices they're already not in. If there was a time for a general strike it is forever ago.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Back to the grind slaves. /S

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Why the /s? They're not being sarcastic and you're just quoting them.

[–] sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world 130 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Then they aren't really about efficiency, are they? When properly set up, WFH for office work is very effective and efficient.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 70 points 4 days ago (6 children)

But think of the billions of dollars of now unused office space. That's horrible for real estate pricing, which is where many of these fucks are invested.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago

And billions of barrels of oil no longer being used and going to waste from all the travel not happening and extra heat needed.

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[–] DankDingleberry@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago (2 children)

they already said it themselves: "Requiring federal employees to come to the office five days a week would result in a wave of voluntary terminations that we welcome" so no, it was never about efficiency. at all.

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[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 71 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Anyone wanna bet on how many days Trump is at Mar-a-Lago during his presidency?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Honestly, I'll be surprised if he spends more than a few days at the White House.

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[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 15 points 3 days ago

Remember when he complained about how many days of vacation Obama took, then took more than that in half as many years?

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[–] evergreen@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago

Guy who sells cars wants people to need cars.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 86 points 4 days ago (2 children)

At least they're open about it: The entire point (according to them) is attrition. The actual plan is to make work for these people much more hostile so they quit.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 53 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Do you think our tax bills will drop if they succeed in forcing these million employees to quit?

They said they want to run the government like a business, and it looks like that's what they're pursuing. Unfortunately, that just means they'll give us the lowest quality service at the highest possible price.

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[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 79 points 4 days ago

god I fucking hate these people. Pure fucking hatred.

[–] Sabin10@lemmy.world 70 points 4 days ago (4 children)

So the government telling businesses how they have to operate is small government now?

[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 30 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I assume they mean all government positions. Hey look at that it's in the headline

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 44 points 4 days ago (5 children)

why federal employees and not the private sector? oh right you want to fire half of the first group.

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[–] WhyFlip@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

"iT's Up To ThE sTaTes!!!1!"

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 29 points 3 days ago (8 children)

I liked the meme posted a month ago...

"Great. I get to delete my work email and collaboration apps from my phone"

Musk made a rant last year interview that "It is immoral for you to work from home if people building your car, or delivering your food cannot". As an employer, you have the option to pay more for extra expenses/time involved in coming to office if that is super important to you.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm not going to take lessons in morality from Mr. I-Promote-Nazis-On-My-Website

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 57 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Working from home for all jobs that it is compatible with should be a mandate to help lower the amount of gas necessary for commuting.

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[–] greenfish@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I contract for uscis. It's fully distributed, there's no way to enforce this without crippling the agency. So it would hobble the mass deportation plan. Very curious how this might turn out

[–] pelican7663@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Since they're both just mouthing off about things they have zero understanding of, based on an over-inflated sense of their own knowledge and competence, this will probably turn out about like most things Trump has tried to do. It'll either go nowhere and they'll just stop speaking of it, or they'll try to force something through and make a mess that someone else will have to clean up.

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