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[–] JPSound@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

$100 says he left immediately after taking these photos. Dr.Hustler PhD here is using precious company time to write a chapter's worth of bullshit. Get back on that horse, it's time to work.

Edit: I finally get it! This must have been what Rage Against the Machine meant when they said, "Can't waste the day when the night brings a Hurst." Still not sure how, "Rollin' down Rodeo with a shotgun," fits in this pro corpo slop but maybe I'm just not a hard enough worker to get it. Bad tradeoff indeed.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Having worked in various countries of Europe with various different work cultures, I can guarantee you that at least in Software Development the productivity of working more than 8h a day regularly (you can get away with doing it for a week or two, but no further) is so much less than in with 8h/day or less, that you're literally producing less results with your work in a whole long-hours day of work than you do in an 8h day.

In simple terms, tired people do negative work and people working long hours regularly end up chronically tired.

Maybe it works differently for people doing stuff that's all about salesmanship (like Business Angel) for whom more hours means more "meets", but in my personal experience it definitelly works as I described for people actually doing heavy thinking work that has to actually work rather than merelly doing talkie-talkie with hard to compare results and where efficiency is near impossible to measure.

[–] AccountMaker@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 day ago

I understood that when once we decided to stay longer and worked for 12h one day, and then spent the next morning un-fucking what we screwed up during those extra hours.

Or when I spent an hour debugging something late in the day, only to come in the morning and find the problem in 15 mins. At least in software development, effectiveness dramatically drops when you're tired and it's really not worth it killing yourself to do something 2h faster.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

I work in IT support, which is basically the next pond over from development. Because the job is so mentally intensive, if I'm working on complex tasks for more than 4-5 hours, my brain is catatonic by the time I hit the end of my shift.

Mental effort, is still effort. Most of the time you can't see that someone is mentally tired, but it is just as debilitating as being physically exhausted.

I can not do my job while mentally exhausted. One screw up from me, and I have the ability to, entirely by accident, take out an entire organizations ability to do useful work.

Some of my clients, I've seen log into the system at 8AM or earlier, and still be online after midnight. I don't understand how they're getting anything useful done by that time.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My office is a ghost town by the time I leave at 5. That’s how I know I’ve found a good place to work. (Also don’t have to be in the office every day)

I only stay that “late” because I get there later than almost everybody else.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 day ago

I also prefer coming late and leaving late. After finishing my formal education nothing forces me into the rhythm of the morning larks anymore. I've been enjoying it quite a bit.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You stay there and work, mr hustler, I have a life to live and enjoy

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

He probably only arrived at 12:00 and is complaining about everyone that has a live besides work (children, hobbies, volunteer jobs etc) and arrive early.

Considering there's laws in Germany that prevents you from working more than 8 hours a day, hes either in violation of those laws or full of shit.

[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Considering there’s laws in Germany that prevents you from working more than 8 hours a day

That's vastly more complicated, only mostly true and only true for employees, not self-employed people.

So he might not be full of shit in this regard, but he's clearly full of shitty-hustle-culture-nonsense!

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[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

Sounds like my man needs to get off LinkedIn. Who tf "loves to talk and post about the hustle" in real life ?

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 56 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tell me again how hard you’re working while you piss around on social media all day.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tell me again how hard you’re working when you’re a grown ass adult who needs to stay until 18:30 every day to accomplish anything competitive

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Some of us are nocturnal. His issue is that he thinks that anyone can stay productive for more than about 4 hours a day. That's just an unrealistic expectation created by bullshit jobs that we can autopilot through for 8 hours a day because the dictators up top decided that was the best decision.

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[–] Zess@lemmy.world 43 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like a dude who works all day without accomplishing anything and doesn't understand how people can get work done quickly by being good at it.

[–] rainynight65@feddit.org 18 points 2 days ago

Actually, he seems to be a guy who's just gallivanting all over the world and posting about it on social media, while others are doing the hard work.

Then again, all I have to go by is his LinkedIn profile...

[–] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's a tradeoff that hurts? Then go home you silly cunt

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago

Desperately trying to justify wasting his life for nothing.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

All work no play makes Jack the only coworker not invited when everyone meets up for drinks.

[–] Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 54 points 2 days ago

And instead of working himself he spents his so productive working time by writing linkedin posts.

[–] gencha@lemm.ee 55 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The other day I was driving on the Autobahn at 3:30am and there were literally no cars around me. These Germans always go on and on about how the Autobahn is so fucking great, but then they are not using it? You have to be really stupid to not see how that illustrates why the entire country is going to shit

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

3:30 AM is probably the best time to be driving on the Autobahn, too. Can't believe nobody's using it at that time.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

More hours weekly correlates extremely highly with a nation's poverty index and unemployment.

The only reason a business would want their workers to work more hours is because the management is lazy and cannot find additional staff to accomplish output goals.

Europe is not behind. It is ahead.

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 55 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Man discovers German labor laws, more at 11.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

This is an especially stupid post coming from a guy working in Germany. As far as I know, they see leaving work early as a good thing because you were so productive you didn't need an entire day of work to complete your tasks

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Overtime work for your own company? If you want, sure. It all comes back to your pocket after all. You do you.

Upset that your staff isn't participating in your non-existent work/life balance? It's only weird if they don't own an equal share of the business with you, or are not well compensated for the inconvenience.

Publicly shaming your staff on LinkedIn for spending time with family? Get ready to lose your top performers.


Edit: another lemming pointed out this is a co-working space. In which case, the above doesn't directly apply to the guy in OP's post, but is a familiar story nonetheless.

[–] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 51 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Odds on he went into the office at 18:30 to take a photo of how empty it was so he post on LinkedIn about what a grinder he is.

[–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I mean does anybody other than blowhards full of nothing but air use or care a out LinkedIn? The last job they tried to push on me was working in a local five and dime in the city centre mall. Not disrespectinf the fine people who work there, but how do my master in thermodynamics and 20 years of experience with explosives fit in there?

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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

lol... return to office, so we can bitch about you leaving after working an entire day.

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 77 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Prosperity comes from inherited wealth.

People who work from a co-working space usually are in no place to lecture others about prosperity.

If you brag about how late you work in the evening, at least tell us when you start in the morning.

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That would be a great reply:

"What time did you get in? I didn't see you at all for the 13 hours I was there. Did you just show up to take a picture?"

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[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 21 points 2 days ago

I start work at 4 am. I do work 4a - 8p one day a week but some days I'm done by noon. Usually by 1:30pm. I'd love to show up at his office at 4:30 am and post, "where's the hustle?"

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

"Business angel" 🤮

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Maybe they all leave as early as possible so as to not have to hang out with this dude.

[–] el_bhm@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

It is not like Berlin is a cultural hotspot in EU and people have things to do in that city.

Oh wait, it is like that. It also applies to MOST of EU capitals. Weird.

[–] ObstreperousCanadian@lemmy.ca 36 points 2 days ago (2 children)

His work is probably just sending emails and booking meetings.

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

Love the boot I guess, whatever makes you happy

[–] vala@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It really gets me that "working hard" to increase capital is baked in as one of the strongest morals of our society.

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

My favorite part is when all these "hard workers" are actually just spending 12 hours/day at the office bullshitting and slacking off

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The whole "work hard" being a moral dictum really depends on the country.

I've worked in Portugal, Britain and The Netherlands for about a decade each and whilst the Brits have the "work hard" not just in the sense of long hours but also the bloody slogan and moral commandment, and the Portuguese too have the long hours but "work hard" really doesn't add up to a moral commandment, the Dutch have neither and in fact it's considered a bad thing if people are still at the office after 6 PM (many even come in earlier to leave at 4.30 PM) to the point that a manager is considered a bad manager if their people are still there at that hour (because it means they didn't plan the project properly), quite the opposite of the other two countries were the "bumms on seats" after 6PM are seen as a good think.

Interestingly, of all 3, the Dutch are the most productive, by far - you do a lot more in term of actual results delivered in 8h/day in The Netherlands than you do in 10-12h/day in Portugal or Britain.

[–] vala@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I agree with the Dutch. 99% of the time ive had to work late/extra it's because the project manager wasn't doing their job and panicked at the last second.

[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Thing is, no one likes to work in a co-working space. Accelerators have these Hip Spaces which are sometimes used (for Meetings and Workshops) but that is just a perk. Main focus is to get multiplication and contacts. Additionally you can join multiple accelerators (as a startup).

I have rarely seen someone working in such a space and IF it was for a hackathon or due to a "last week crunsh before release".

Home Office .... they key words are home office and core hours (which are a 4H overlap for communication between early birds and night owls)...

There, you have it. That guy has no idea about processes and employee management. This guy is a one man clown show.

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