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My great grandma spent the last three years of her life almost immobile from several consecutive strokes, almost blind from several problems she developed over the years, couldn't smell or taste anything. She was basically dying in slo-mo. Everything failed on her.

The last months she essentially spent in a constant shit puddle, because here intestines somehow decided not to work properly anymore.

It's horrible and inhumane to let people suffer like that. Every diseased stray dog gets more mercy.

My grandma was the same as your grandmother, who passed away. She wished and waited for death ever since she turned 90; she was overall okay, but she was still in a lot of pain and was practically blind in one eye, and the other was going as well. 

She at least died in a peaceful sleep, so she didn't have to live through anymore pain than she had to.

My condolences for your grandmas death, and more power to your other grandma!

Due to his dementia, my dad went from being a professor emeritus who was still writing books to someone in a nursing home, barely able to do 20-piece jigsaw puzzles within a very short time. And if he knew what was going to happen and could have been offered euthanasia, I would hope he would have taken it as an option. It was such an undignified way to die.

And the dementia care facility was a very long drive away (90 minutes for me, an hour for my mom), so we weren't even with him when he died.

The last 4 years were like that for my father. Couldn't see, couldn't hear, couldn't walk, ate only for survival not enjoyment. It was a miserable existence, he said himself the last time I saw him. His brain was still totally functional. My mother kept him alive by being a 24/7 in home nurse. He almost died right before the pandemic but she saved his ass.

It's cause of the vaccines!

• some ignorant dipshit lowering the average lifespan by dying to a preventable disease

Yeah, i expect I'll want off this ride by 70-75 (assuming I make it that far)

I think a big part of the problem is that quality of life is correlated with longevity. Some people start having health issues in their 40s and die in their 60s. Others start having health issues in their 70s and die in their 80s.

And so the question becomes whether maximizing high quality years adds to the low quality years, or not. And so the question might not be about extending life itself, but about extending healthy years.

As the population in Western countries age without younger people to replace it, and take care of the elderly, I'm going to guess the opposite will happen.

I think as long as we continue to develop newer and better medicinal techniques, we'll reach the point where we can keep our bodies together long enough to enjoy old age as much as we do middle age.

I see a lot of really cool medical advancements on the horizon from regrowing natural teeth all the way to literal "reverse aging" of brain cells, none of which are going to grant us immortality or multi-century lifespans, but will probably make it so that we can go into the twilight years with less pain and more cognitive function than our ancestors who had to endure the agony without being able to die in dignity.

I wish I had never read his stupid book that gave me stupid false hope for the stupid future.

Im not familiar with him, but looking him up Im guessing youre mentioning him for promoting life extension research? Honestly Im not sure if what this article is talking about is even that relevant to that idea. Obviously you cant extend life indefinitely by merely trying to cure each type of common age related illness as it comes up, eventually the body is just too weak and easy to damage to keep it running. To actually extend life far beyond the current maximum you'd need to find a means to reverse the root cause of aging itself rather than just trying to patch the symptoms indefinitely

It's ok he eats 1000 vitamins a day that has to count for something

He'd agree that humanity is hitting a limit.

Turns out the richest people in the US has the same life expectancy as the poorest people in the UK.

15% of Hong Kongers reach 100 years old

Nah: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3281420/why-it-might-be-time-scientists-focus-keeping-people-healthy-longer?utm_source=perplexity

Between 4% and 12%, depends if you're male or female.