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The HELLDIVERS™^©®^³ 2 EULA is a god damn URL
Somebody up at Sony had a Jira ticket to update all the eulas and it listed the URLs for each one, instead of going to the URLs and putting the content in each one of the eulas they just slaped the URLs in.
Edit: clarity
"I read the URL. It was not very informative."
I have read the URL in it's entirety. It's not an agreement. This query is invalid.
I bet you could argue in court that the EULA is null and void, because you can't be reasonably expected to copy that link into a browser to read it
Modify your host and redirect the URL > 127.0.0.1. software without license:D
You can not, in fact, copy that link - I had to type it manually. It's relatively short and human-readable, but still...
Devil's advocate: I wouldn't accuse Sony (or friends) of intentionally making the text unselectable, that's on the Steam client.
If the agreement to play a game needs a whole website, then I say the problem is 100% on the game developer.
Still, Steam probably has some clause in their developer agreement where they say that's not on them.
Yeah, I don't blame Steam, I don't expect them to foresee publishers specifying EULAs as "idk google it m8".
... actually, no, I do blame Steam, what reason is there to prevent copying EULAs? Are they protected by copyright too now?
The EULA isn't null and void, but it's pretty meaningless. Not because you can't reasonably be expected to copy that link into a browser to read it, but because there's no indication that you should or even must do that.
The EULA contains no terms, it doesn't contain any wording saying what you can or can't do. It doesn't say what your rights are. It just contains something that looks like a URL. So, you're still bound by the terms of the EULA (as much as you're bound by any EULA) but the EULA doesn't permit or forbid anything. It's effectively the same as if it were blank.
Not a lawyer but that does look like a very acceptable URL doesn't it? I mean has all the normal URL dots and slashes so I'd say accept
Bonus rant: the webpage is one of those death row worthy websites that forces you into the localization it determines based on your IP address, rather than using the HTTP header that has been specifically defined for that purpose.
The header defines the language, but laws follow political borders, so it makes sense. E.g. which country's eula would you show for a German speaker Germany, Austria or Switzerland?
Language specifiers include country level variants - de-DE, de-AT, de-CH
I have my locales set on en-UK because I prefer to have English versions, easier to troubleshoot problems
I wish I could set it as en-FR for other things, like metric system and 24h clock, but you can't
You can set that up separately, override LC_TIME:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Locale It's Arch wiki but this is usually the same for any other distro
a good lawyer could probably argue that a user isn't bound to that eula.
heck a bad lawyer could probably too.
They're bound to the EULA, but the EULA is meaningless because it's just a URL. They're definitely not bound by whatever's at that URL.
This would be like having someone sign a contract when the contract was just a shopping list. Sure, they're bound by the "contract", but the contract doesn't specify anything they can or can't do.
Why does this remind me of The Phantom Tollbooth?
Tecnically I agreed to "https://www.playstation.com/legal/op-eula", there is nothing that tells me that I have to go the site and read it there
Are any users actually bound, ever?
Depends on how paid off the judge is in the lawsuit.
Is an EULA presented this way considered binding? That seems really exploitable, like making people click hundreds of links to get to the real EULA so they don't actually read it.
making people click hundreds of links to get to the real EULA
This could be turned into a game with some kind of narrative like a Choose-Your-Own-E.U.L.Adventure. Players might try to exploit it though, so there should probably be some terms they have to agree to first.
Tell that to the people who just got denied the ability to sue over an Uber crash because their daughter agreed to the Uber eats eula
Technically that's still on appeal, and tbh I do expect it to get overturned somewhere.
It's pretty ridiculous.
What happens if you go there and Sony have moved their EULA page and it just 404s? Does that mean there is no EULA at all and you can play without terms? Doubt Sony woild see it that way lol.
EULA should be displayed within the same context it is accepted.
Imagine getting a 404 or 500 error. Then archiving that on archive.org (and screenshot that dialog on steam) and accept the terms. If there's any problem and they say you violated the EULA, point them to the terms you accepted.
Technically, if you're internet is down or finicky, you could be simply agreeing to a 404 error.
Ultra technically, you're agreeing to the literal URL. So essentially no terms.
I'm not a lawyer but given that a large company with adequate resources is doing this, I would interpret it as the terms.
Tangentially related: I really enjoyed the EULA of Baldur's Gate 3:
Same thing with Until Dawn. Why do I need a PSN account for a single player game?
Well, at least Steam quickly issued the refund.
Steam does actually tell you on the game's page if the game requires a 3rd party account to play.
My wife just got the exact same pop up while playing God of War: Ragnarok. Weirdly though, she’d been playing it for a week before they sent this.
