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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 40 seconds ago

Thousands!? Shit. That's like all of them!

[–] CyberSeeker@discuss.tchncs.de 62 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Shouldn’t be this hard to find out the attack vector.

Buried deep, deep in their writeup:

RocketMQ servers

  • CVE-2021-4043 (Polkit)
  • CVE-2023-33246

I’m sure if you’re running other insecure, public facing web servers with bad configs, the actor could exploit that too, but they didn’t provide any evidence of this happening in the wild (no threat group TTPs for initial access), so pure FUD to try to sell their security product.

Unfortunately, Ars mostly just restated verbatim what was provided by the security vendor Aqua Nautilus.

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 12 points 8 hours ago

There's also a buried reference to using a several-years-patched gpac bug to gain root access before this thing can do most of its stealth stuff.

Basically, it needs your system to already have a known, unpatched RCE bug before it can get a foothold, and if you've got one of those you have problems that go way beyond stealth crypto miners stealing electricity.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 54 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

This story reeks of FUD.

exploiting more than 20,000 common misconfigurations, a capability that may make millions of machines connected to the Internet potential targets,

Because a "common misconfiguration" will absolutely make your system vulnerable!?!
OK show just ONE!

This is FUD to either prevent people from using Linux, or simply a hoax to get attention, or maybe to make you think you need additional security software.

[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 22 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Crowd strike looking for a new market?

[–] ITeeTechMonkey@lemmy.world 18 points 10 hours ago
[–] cron@feddit.org 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

ssh with an easy to guess root password?

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Wouldn't that simply be a user mistake?
It's kind of like saying if you remove the password completely, it's vulnerable.

[–] luciddaemon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Seeing the diagram, it only attacks servers with misconfigured rocketMQ or CVE-2023-33426, which is already patched. Am I understanding this correctly?

[–] cron@feddit.org 8 points 9 hours ago

It probably has a large database of exploits it can use. The article claims 20k, but this seems to high for me.

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 64 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Can't be infected if I keep wiping my partition for a new shiny distro

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Your install USB is infected by a rookit and reinstalls itself on connect.

[–] NiHaDuncan@lemmy.world 21 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Jokes on you, the rootkit is likely my own and I just forgot about it.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 10 hours ago

It's tough being an ADHD Hacker

[–] saddlebag@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

This was my first thought. I haven’t had the same os installed for a few months max, nevermind 3 years

[–] zante@lemmy.wtf 41 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

No mention of transmission methods as far as I understand the article

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 10 points 10 hours ago

They have an "attack flow" diagram that seems to indicate a hacker installing it directly through a known vulnerability.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 45 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

The whole thing sounds fishy. Like it's trying to convince people Linux is inherently vulnerable.

exploiting more than 20,000 common misconfigurations

Like WTF?

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It's kind of an iffy assertion. That's maybe the number of files it scans looking for misconfigurations it can exploit, but I'd bet there's a lot of overlap in the potential contents of those files (either because of cascading configurations, or because they're looking for the same file in slightly different places to mitigate distro differences). So the number of possible exploits is likely far fewer.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

maybe the number of files it scans looking for misconfigurations

So how did it get into the system to be able to scan configuration files?

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 3 points 3 hours ago

Separate remote code execution vulnerability in unupdated versions of RocketMQ, a Chinese-developed messaging/streaming server, in the case of the infection described in the article. It's possible that there are a few other RCE vulns it can make use of, but 20000 of them seems unlikely.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today -2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Like it’s trying to convince people Linux is inherently vulnerable.

I'm typing this reply from a machine running KDE Plasma on top of Linux Mint 22.

I'm not sure what precisely what you mean by "inherently" but I'd like to point that "Linux" has security problems all over the place; the kernel has issues, the DEs have issues, the applications have issues. It's more secure than Windows but that's not a very high bar.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

I've been using Linux since 2005, and I've heard all sorts of stories about Linux having "security problems", and almost every time it turns out to be a problem that can't be exploited on it's own. but requires the use of other vulnerabilities.
The only exception I can recall is the zx util compression tool, which was detected before it was rolled out.

Zero day vulnerabilities have been non existent for 20 years to my knowledge.

[–] li10@feddit.uk 13 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Sounds like it should at least be noticeable if you monitor resource usage?

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Vulnerable to 20,000 misconfigurations, But thearted by 42 billion different simple checks that we all do anyway.

5 minute load greater than 80% of the number of cores? That's an alarm.....

[–] cron@feddit.org 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes, but they replace common tools like top or lsof with manipulated versions. This might at least trick less experienced sysadmins.

Edit: Some found out about the vulnerability by ressource alerts. Probably very easy in a virtualized environment. The malware can't fool the hypervisor ;)

[–] li10@feddit.uk 1 points 9 hours ago

Not quite the monitoring I’m talking about though.

Basically, it seems like this would be a nightmare for a home user to detect, but a company is probably gonna pick up on this quite quickly with snmp monitoring (unless it somehow does something to that).

[–] Pantsofmagic@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That's how some people found it, but it would disappear when someone would login to investigate.

[–] li10@feddit.uk 8 points 10 hours ago

Sure, but it’s still fairly detectable when it’s on a server at least, as long as you have monitoring. Just a bitch to pinpoint and fix.

[–] JoShmoe@ani.social -1 points 10 hours ago

Millions of systems shut down by dumb microsoft os.