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[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 15 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 33 minutes ago)

An index that either tracks the top 500 companies or the total market. Look up a 3-fund portfolio if you want to go a little deeper.

Alternatively, max out an IRA if you haven't already this year and are in a position where you won't need that money until retirement.

Edit: I realized I'm assuming a lot about your situation. So instead, here's a general list of priorities that applies to more or less any situation. You should only proceed with a step if all the steps above it are achieved. Also keep in mind, I'm not a financial advisor just a random stranger on the internet sharing my personal financial strategy.

  1. Pay your future-self first. Establish regular contributions to your retirement account and HSA if you have one, totalling between 3-5% of your compensation or whatever your company's matching policy is (That's not free money, it's part of your compensation package. Not claiming it is like waving a portion of your income).

  2. Pay off all debt since interest is essentially paying a percentage-based monthly fee for owing money and we're not privileged enough for our assets to cover that expense.

  3. Build and maintain a liquid (cash) holding as an emergency fund. This isn't for investing or expensive new toys, it's insurance that will cover your expenses for 6-12 months. Put it in a high-yield savings account or money market since it will be a significant sum and inflation will otherwise reduce its value over time.

  4. Max out your retirement accounts to the contribution limit, your 401(k), IRA, and HSA if you have one. These accounts have tax advantages that essentially mean you can put more money towards retirement than you could in an individual trading account. This doesn't have to be one lump sum, you can divide it up into monthly contributions so long as you're on track for maxing your contribution limits by the end of the year.

  5. Open an individual trading account with a broker (Vanguard, Fidelity, etc.) and invest in index funds (3-fund portfolios are reliable and low-cost). If you anticipate a significant expense over the next 10 years, i.e. a down payment for a house you can budget between this and the funds going towards Step 4 but keep in mind the tax advantages of retirement accounts means you're likely missing out on some retirement gains.

VT. Don’t gamble on single stocks. But since capitalism rules and all of congress owns stocks, you can be fairly confident the market will go up in the long term 10+ years horizon. And compound interest does miracles.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Depends on your risk tolerance.

A 4% savings account is “safe” but might not keep up with inflation.

An index fund might be “good”, but the value can go down.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

IIRC, >6% is the floor to keep up...

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The average inflation rate for the last 20 years is under 3%

Edit: why are people downvoting me, refute my statement with a source instead of downvoting because you wish inflation was higher

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

Oh? That's actually uplifting news! 😅🖖🏽

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 125 points 1 day ago (9 children)
  1. pay off high interest debt

  2. top off your emergency fund so you don’t run into expensive short-on-money situations

  3. take care of deferred maintenance on your car or house that might turn into an expensive repair

  4. If you have an employer sponsored 401k, increase the contribution amount to get 10k more tax free into it before the end of the year and use the $10k cash in hand for expenses.

  5. Open a roth IRA and contribute the maximum amount you can (which may vary based on your income)

VT, VTI, and SPY are good broad-market funds with good historical growth.

[–] PineRune@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I like these points. Preventing a future expense by paying less now is always worth it, if you can afford it.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Today@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

It's much more expensive to be poor now than it used to be!

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[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Second vote for VTI.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

1-4 are all taken care of. I need to learn more about a roth IRA and what an index fund is. I'm okay with letting $10K sit somewhere for 5-10 years, possibly longer like for retirement.

[–] prayer@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Don't rule out a Roth if you only want to save for 5-10 years. You're allowed to withdraw the principal (initial 10K) at any time for no penalty/cost, so long as it's recorded properly with the IRS when you withdraw it.

[–] zerotozero@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Read up on Roth IRAs - your future self will thank you! You can open an account anywhere you'd like (Vanguard, Fidelity, Charles Schwab, etc). One thing I'll mention though: the annual limit is 7K for 2024 (8K if you're 50+), and you have to have at least that much in income to contribute (i.e., if you only had 5K income for 2024, then that's your limit).

So, for 10K you'll have to invest in 2024 and 2025. You also have until tax day to make contributions for the prior year.

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[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you don't have an emergency fund, I would put some or all of it into something like a money market account. It won't grow very much, but it's safe and is quick and easy to withdraw when needed.

Otherwise depends on your age and situation, but an index fund (S&P 500) is almost always the right choice. It's flexible, doesn't usually lock you in, and will generally do very well in the mid-to-long term. If we hit a recession you might get stuck holding the shares for several months to a few years. The last thing you want to do is panic sell in that situation.

If you have any debt, paying that down is a very smart move, especially if the debt is charging more interest than your investment can earn. Future you will thank you.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 9 points 1 day ago

Index fund, most definitely. And find one that has low administrative fees, I know that Vanguard has at least a few that are super low.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have my emergency fund, and no debt. If I were to lose this $10K, it wouldn't impact my life. I'm comfortable with taking $10K out of my bank account and doing something with it but I don't know how to go about that. I don't know how to open an index fund or money market account.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

I'm going to second (third, fourth, fifth) the Roth IRA recommendation. You can set it up with Schwab or whoever and can make recurring contributions too (set it and forget it) there are income limits so if you are really raking it in one year you can't contribute that year but whatever you put in there is still (usually) going to grow in value. If you have an emergency situation and need the money you can withdraw contributions, not earnings, ahead of retirement, so it's not lost to you, but working for you and much easier at tax time, no worries about how to report it.

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago

Pay down your debts first.

[–] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Buy 10 Babies in Arkansas.

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[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 20 points 21 hours ago

With zero information on your situation, it's difficult to say. If you have debt, paying that down/off is generally priority one. If you are debt-free, then you have options. Your age, stability, goals, and other factors would generally dictate what type of action to take. Were it me (early 40s, very low interest rate home loan), I'd put it into an index fund where I've already got some investments. In my case, I'm investing for retirement in about 25-30 years (as if I'll be able to do that, but one can hope).

[–] teft@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Leave the country while you still can? 🤓🤘🏽

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[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

But how do we know that you are use it for drugs and hookers and not just some nonsense?

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Damn you got me I was gonna be an idiot and put it in an IRA

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[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Put it in an IRA so you cant touch it and buy high dividedend yeilding stocks that reinvest in more shares and let it sit for the next decade and pray that there is a radical social change in out society so we can save the Planet and Poor from Billionaires.

[–] ShunkW@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (4 children)

You can definitely touch an IRA. Had to empty mine since I've been unemployed.

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[–] rimu@piefed.social 10 points 1 day ago

There is no universally good investment - it all depends on your priorities, risk appetite and timeframe.

[–] twistypencil@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago

Don't disagree about stuffing it in VTI... But, be aware that things can go up and down, so don't obsess over the value one you put it in. It's long term so it should go up over long term, but they're can be months sheets it goes down and even a year where it doesn't do well

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So from what I've read after viewing this thread, I make a vanguard account, either get a money market fund or a brokered CD, put the money in, let it sit for awhile, and then profit years down the line?

[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

Money market or CD is going to have terrible return. You will be lucky to match inflation. Get a low overhead SP 500 index fund. By low overhead I'm taking .15% or less. You should be able to find .125% with a bit of poking around.

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