I fucking hate these. I've seen old people that don't know any better get stuck on these for at least 30 minutes.
this post was submitted on 27 Sep 2024
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it's super ableist. if someone has poor vision or colorblindness chances are they're going to miss things.
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Aren't these Captchas designed to get training data for AI models anyway?
"System does what it was designed to do" doesn't feel that surprising...
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This is actually a good sign for self driving. Google was using this data as a training set for Waymo. If AI is accurately identifying vehicles and traffic markings, it should be able to process interactions with them easier.
As I understand it, the point of those captchas was never really "bots can't identify these things" (though you're right on that it was used to train). They use cursor movement, clicks, and other behaviours while you're solving it to detect if you are a bot or not.
The image choosing was always just to train their own bots
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The annoying thing is that they held us hostage for our free labor, but the results are proprietary for Google's benefit only.
That training data ought to be forced to be made freely available to the public, since we're the ones who actually created it.
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When it's asking for motorcycles but it's clearly a scooter
Or, like, "there's the bottom 10% of a traffic light in this one. Do I click that box? Ia that supposed to count?"
What they are doing is comparing your answer and seeing if it is consistent with how it has been answered previously. They realize that not everyone is going to give the exact same answer, so as long as you answer it in a way that enough other people have answered it, it should let you in.
I'll usually go with the minimum number of clicks that I think will get me through, since I'm lazy and it'll also at times slow down how fast you can click which is annoying.
I'll also answer them wrong if I think it's a mistake that enough other people will make. "Yes... that RV over there is a bus..."
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That tip of a handle bar that makes you wonder if that square counts or not.
Does it count when the AI driving the car clips it?
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I had one with one of those Motorcycles with the long handles, apparently they aren't part of the bike, but the dudes foot holding it up is.
I think the reason AI are better than humans is that the AI is just as stupid as the image classifier.
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Wait, so if a visitor fails the v3 Captcha, v2 is used as a fallback?
That makes absolutely no sense.
V3 isn't necessarily more effective than V2, it's just less obtrusive.
Not quite: it'll drop a v2 captcha for you to solve when a v3 one can't clearly classify you one way or another.
So if v3 isn't entirely sure you're human, it'll make you do a v2.
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Thank God this means i can stop wondering if i should click on the... the 13 pixels from the fucking bike in that one corner square or wondering if i should count the scooter as a motorcycle fuck i am so tired of that shit
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And yet I can't beat the CAPTCHAs because reCAPTCHA doesn't like VPNs lol
I was going to say I’ve straight up just left whatever website I was trying to access because I was stuck in some endless loop of clicking on street crossings, buses, bikes, and street lights.
Captcha these days isn't even really a CAPTCHA in the traditional sense since most of the work it does is based on filtering of IP and browser fingerprinting, with a certain level of gamification because the goal is not just to keep out the people they fight against, but to waste their time, would work great if it didn't waste normal people's time, while real bad actors have easy ways to get around it.
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So can we stop using those damn things? They're super annoying!
I'm kind of hoping the AI permanently beats them. I hate them too.
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Well yeah, I'd hope so, that's the entire point.
Catcha's data collection always was with the intent for training ai on these skills. That's "the point" of them.
It's reasonable to expect that the older version of captchas can now be beaten by modern ai, because they're often literally trained on that exact data to beat it.
Captcha effectively is free to use on websites as a tool because the data collection is the "payment", they then license that data out to people like OpenAI to train with for stuff like image recognition.
It's why ai is progressing so fast, captchas are one of humanity's long term collected data silos that are very full now.
We are going to have to keep progressing the complexity of catches as it will be the only way to catch modern AIs, and in turn it will collect more data to improve it.
We are going to have to keep progressing the complexity of catches as it will be the only way to catch modern AIs, and in turn it will collect more data to improve it.
I wanted to use 4chan alot before I came here, but FUCK that slider capcha. I bailed after the first time I didn't pass.
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Buster is awesome to get past recaptcha. I use it with my own Speech to Text API key since its free from Google. Using Google to beat Google.
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My score is lower.
Cool, so can Google shut it down now?
I can see a future where the Internet is completely run by bots and AI to the point where no human actually uses the Internet anymore.
It's like an island that gets overrun with rats - there are just too many to deal with so you leave.
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I mean, we literally train them by completing the CAPTCHAs. Why do you think you were picking things like bikes, traffic lights, cars, and busses? The only question now is what's next...
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