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[–] Lexam@lemmy.ca 192 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That is an endorsement in of itself.

[–] dadGPT@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (5 children)
[–] Pegajace@lemmy.world 78 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Not even. He officially left the Dems and registered as independent earlier this year.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I for one am very happy to rid the party of these scumbags: Manchin, Gabbard, Sinema.

[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Depressingly, also Fetterman.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fetterman is bad on Israel-Palestine but I thought he was otherwise ok re: democracy, women's rights, etc? Am I wrong? He's not my rep so I'm actually asking.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago

He always struck me as a guy who is who he is. He would fail any ideology test because he goes by his gut rather than any ideological compass. I think he felt his supporters were being a bit mercurial for opposing him so vehemently on Israel. Not really an excuse, but I think he just lost his shit and lost his way. So probably a decent guy but he has to do a lot of work to repair that bridge and I have no idea if he's up to it.

But I could be wrong.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Gabbard and Sinema are people that can be replaced with other democrats, but let’s not fool ourselves into thinking a more progressive person would likely get elected for Manchin’s West Virginia seat.

Manchin may suck, but he caucuses with the dems and puts the dems 2 seats over the majority line. Which means his existence currently allows the Chuck Schumer to replace Mitch McConnell, which means the dems control what comes to the floor in the senate.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They just can't pass anything. But yeah, it is still better than what the other side would bring to the floor.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Then re-registered as a Dem when Biden was about to drop out. Then re-re-registered as an Indie when he realized he wasn't going to get handed to nomination over Harris.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago

An independent now. Not even a DINO.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

More like a Dixiecrat. Old school southern Democrat.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Honestly, I’ll take it.

Dude could be a Home Depot Halloween skeleton for all I care. He caucuses with the Dems, which means that he helps push the Dems over 50% in the senate, which means the Dems control political appointments and what get brought to the floor.

I’ll take him over Mitch McConnell back in power.

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[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 86 points 1 month ago (9 children)

The fact that Biden called for this exact same thing and Manchin was ok endorsing him but has to make a big scene when a non-white woman calls for doing the same thing basically tells you everything you need to know about Manchin

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[–] Veedem@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Why not just make the filibuster what it used to be and require the people who want to wield it to hold the floor for hours upon hours with no break? Some of it was silly. Some of it heroic. Either way, it required someone to truly be willing to stand behind their beliefs and, thus, was used much less often.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

I also liked the idea of a minority vote (2/5) to sustain a filibuster. If you don't have 40 supporters, on the floor, then the filibuster ends.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

it required someone to truly be willing to stand behind their beliefs

Conservatives don't typically have these, and the ones that do know how unpopular they are. That's why they fight against any attempt to reign it in.

[–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

This seems like such a fair way to add some discomfort to filibustering and making it a bit less appealing.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 37 points 1 month ago

Oh no! Anyways…

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 1 month ago

Republicans can endorse Harris all day long and I'm here for it.

Manchin endorsing Harris would have actually done her a disservice.

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

Can someone kick this guy in the nuts? I don't really care about this news, I just think that should happen to him, every day.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

Oh wow, the republican infiltrator isnt supporting the democrats.

I'm sooooooooo surprised.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Manchin was not going to endorse her anyway.

It's 42 days to the election, people are voting, if he was going to endorse her it would have been at the convention.

[–] jhymesba@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I'd seen the quote, but not the withholding of endorsement. Well, I guess he's going to join the 'both sides bad' crowd.

Still. What does his opinion matter? He's leaving the Senate next year so his proper alt-Right replacement can take over...

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[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago
[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 16 points 1 month ago

Manchin LOL. What a piece of work.

He’s a fucking tool; I don’t expect she’ll care much. Also: what an absolutely fucking idiotic hill for him to die on.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Like I give a flying fuck what Joe Manchin's DINO ass thinks

[–] Sirpantangelini@noauthority.social 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

@realcaseyrollins he's gunna endorse trump and could end up sec of energy

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[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

"It’s the only thing that keeps us talking ~~and~~ instead of working together."

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Manchin not endorsing IS an endorsement. Harris should run commercials.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

fuck that guy... fuck him with a retractable baton

[–] AtomicHotSauce@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

At LEAST twice. Possibly 47 times.

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[–] 108@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Who cares about this dinosaur, like anyone is surprised?

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[–] draneceusrex@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Holy Grail? An item given no special meaning in the Bible, and was blown out of proportion in importance by fiction writers a thousand years later? I guess Manchin doesn't really think the filibuster is too important then.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

No special meaning and not in the Constitution.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Fuck Joe "This is the best we can hope for" Manchin.

And fuck the system that makes him the best we can hope for.

West Virginia used to be cool.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Forced Birther coal baron Joe Manchin is upset at Harris for threatening his cash cow fillibuster. News at 11

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

"I'm Kamala Harris, and I approve this message!"

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

This guy sucks.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

He likes his power

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