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[–] funtrek@discuss.tchncs.de 149 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because he died at 21. With perfect teeth.

[–] vonxylofon@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My teeth emphatically didn't look like that at 21. More like someone used a shotgun to implant them to my mouth. I could be from Britain for all I care.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

ironic that that meme is 70s-80s dated. most brits get far better dental care than the average US citizen, where our health insurance stops before it covers our goddamned mouth bones.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

Isn't basically everyone getting better than the US? Except having a great military ofc.

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[–] archomrade@midwest.social 56 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because apparently some of us only eat peanut butter and never chew anything solid

[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago

yogurt is yummy 😋

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 51 points 1 month ago

Survivorship bias? Bodies that are in the right condition dry out and pull the teeth deeper set into jaw bones as part of decomposition, whereas otherwise the skeleton would not be intact?

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] ValorieAF@lemmy.world 92 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I don't think inbreeding is going to solve this

[–] Sammy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Outbreeding? (Alien bussy)?

[–] Jimbo@yiffit.net 7 points 1 month ago

Now we might be getting somewhere

[–] lemmur@szmer.info 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

According to porn hub, plenty of people are committed to trying.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Inbreeding is what caused crooked teeth

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[–] red@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

only one way to find out

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Why do our teeth grow in less perfectly now?

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 95 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_jaw_shrinkage

The main contributing factor to the recent increase in malocclusion is widely considered to be due to a sharp reduction in chewing stress, especially during critical periods of craniofacial growth.[10][1] Experiments done on non-human subjects have shown that induced nasal blockages and/or dietary changes earlier in life lead to maladaptive morphological change in their jaws, intended to simulate what we are observing globally in human children.[4] Significant craniofacial changes due to diet have even been experimentally shown in pigs during development; researchers fed groups either a hard-consistency diet or a soft-consistency diet, for eight months in total.[11] Drastic differences in jaw and facial musculature, facial structure, and tooth-crowding were observed; researchers directly related the findings to what we are observing more in human populations.[11]

so too much damn baby food?

[–] Caesium@lemmy.world 51 points 1 month ago (1 children)

more like eating more processed food. and I mean like 'gone through a cooking process' kind of way. We do a lot more now than just burn our meat and eat veggies raw to get nutrients. we simply just don't need to work our jaws so hard to get what we need

if only my wisdom teeth got the memo :+:

[–] boogetyboo@aussie.zone 37 points 1 month ago

Oh mine got the memo. They lay peacefully, horizontally in my jaw, like little Saddam Husseins until they decided they wanted to visit other parts of my jaw and make friends along the way.

[–] ChapulinColorado@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

I recall also reading about people in Australia and some other places with diets consisting of harder food for developing babies/toodlers having better jaw/teeth ratios and straighter teeth despite no regular access to a dentist, which kind of corroborates the findings.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Should we be giving our toddlers bones to chew on?

For real though, what about people who have gaps in their teeth? Did they have too much hard food?

[–] ajikeshi@lemmy.world 78 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

because people with very bad teeth survive nowadays

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 73 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well, that mf didn't survive either... He's dead....

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But he lived a long and happy life. He died at the ripe old age of 35

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Average age is not average for those that reached adulthood. Most adults still lived to decent ages unless you select for very dire situations, like the Black Plague, or specific outbreaks of violence, etc.

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That is true, but tooth get worse when you grow older. So to die younger means you'll leave a nicer skull for archaeologists to find. The number 35 was arbitrarily chosen, but I now think your fact was slumbering in my mind when I chose that number.

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[–] brillotti@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Our food is way softer so we don't chew enough to maximise the growth of our maxillae and jaws.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So... You're saying I should eat more bones and chew on trees.

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nuts and bones. Tree bark of the yew tree when you inevitably get indigestion.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Yew wood, wouldn't you?

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[–] lemmus@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

We eat soft, processed foods now. We used to graze and chew constantly, which helps the jaw grow properly.

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

I think I’d read before that it was because most of our foods now are soft foods so our teeth/jaws are not as strong.

[–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Sugar content of our food is one of the reasons I read before as well.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Everyone who's replied to you so far are wrong and speculating. The real issue is actually lack of nutrition and exercise for the mouth. We're not growing our jaws out quite right while our teeth are coming in.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

this also sounds like speculation.

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[–] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

im p sure it has to do with stuff being easier to eat. we dont have to work with our jaw to tear or crush difficult foods since everything is processed or we have tools to make it easy. our jaws are underused, so they develop to be smaller than theyre supposed to be, and our teeth get crowded

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Before we cut our food in perfectly sized bites with utensils our ancestors used to do it by biting into large pieces of food with their front teeth. That would wear them down evenly to form a nice flat bite.

I wouldn't be surprised if that's the skeleton of someone who died way younger than we think as well.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

Something else that affects our teeth (though I'm not sure if it affects growth) is sugar consumption. Our ancestors had very little access to sugar or even spices. They ate things like meat and veggies plain. Back in prehistoric times, this meant they wouldn't have to brush their teeth, since the bacteria in their mouths wouldn't have produced plaque.

That's why a lot of human remains of 80-year-olds from 20,000 BC have perfect teeth or only a few missing after those teeth got knocked out by getting hit in the face. If you're ever stranded on a deserted island, you should avoid eating all those coconuts and bananas with every meal.

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[–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My dentist said that it's because we don't chew much. We just eat a lot of soft stuff which somehow negativity affects teeth such that they don't grow properly.

[–] mihor@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Could be, there's a similar remedy to wisdom teeth growing sideways. Apparently the body needs some sort of a signal for direction, so if you chew on a stick (e.g. a pencil) for 10-15 minutes each day, they should reallign themselves.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago

You forgot the /s at the end of “fix your teeth by chewing on a pencil for 15 minutes a day”, right?

[–] sus@programming.dev 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

agriculture and its consequences (maybe)

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Kinda? Humans consume a lot more sugar than they did 10,000 years ago, in addition to other foodstuff that are terrible for your teeth

[–] sus@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The one I was thinking of is the (hypothesized) reduction in jaw size due to less need for powerful chewing, while teeth stayed the same size leading to many problems

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[–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

Discovering fire and its consequences (real)

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] pigup@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

~~ENVY~~-> INVISALIGN

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Thanks, Homer!

far cry primal

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