In Sweden a TV news station exposed a troll farm run by the far right party. I'd say that counts.
this post was submitted on 21 Sep 2024
321 points (96.3% liked)
Showerthoughts
29698 readers
1004 users here now
A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. A showerthought should offer a unique perspective on an ordinary part of life.
Rules
- All posts must be showerthoughts
- The entire showerthought must be in the title
- Avoid politics
- NEW RULE as of 5 Nov 2024, trying it out
- Political posts often end up being circle jerks (not offering unique perspective) or enflaming (too much work for mods).
- Try c/politicaldiscussion, volunteer as a mod here, or start your own community.
- Posts must be original/unique
- Adhere to Lemmy's Code of Conduct-----
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
In Norway, NRK started a misinformation campaign in a local school to influence the school election to show how easy it was.
It was not well received
And what came of it?
There was a lot of talk about it in the news, and the right wing party did distance itself from some of the elements of the operation. Mostly they played the fake news card though, and essentially claimed that the deep state was against them - ~~because the investigation came from the Swedish state media company~~.
They also had a lackluster election result (EU elections) right after, but who knows how much impact this thing had, if any.
Anyway, basically all of them are still in their jobs and they are actively taking a shit down the throats of the Swedish population, as they are currently in the majority block of the government and can as such get a lot of their politics through.
Just one note: it was Kalla Fakta on TV4, not state media. If it was, it would probably have been shutdown by their orders to the spineless governemnt the next week.
Ah shit, my bad. Will update my comment.
I believe they whined about something about the deep state being against them though, so I guess I connected the dots where no connection existed.
Nothing. Liberals and Conservatives still stand by them. Just maybe do they not do it to the same degree anymore. One of the things they did was to try and increase support for a conspiracy theory that is exists among a few immigrants in Sweden; that swedish goverment agencies kidnap their babies. I think in the exposé they did show that wanted to do this so that these conspiracy theorists would take action, because that would increase support for the far right. No issue for the other parties apparently.
I have no idea but the usual playbook would be:
One bad apple resigns in disgrace. Bot farm closed. Start new bot farm.
There is/was a show about Russian spies living in America as Americans though. I watched a few episodes when it came out but it wasn't my kinda thing.
Its called FOX news. Would not recommend.
ZING!
....guys, remember zing? We used to say zing in the 90s! Remember that? Guys? GUYS!!!
..........^^^^^guys?
Edit: Welp....guess I can't make small text on Lemmy like I could on reddit. The context here is like you're hearing me as you're walking away from a dork saying dork things.
Come on grampa, let's get you home
Ned Ryerson?
The small text renders fine for me on Eternity for Lemmy
Bazoingoo!
I STILL have no idea how to read your username....
Kolanaki
It's a combination of my dog's names, Kona and Loki; but then I mistyped it when I made my account (it should have been KolOnaki, but whatevs). o7
You also forgot the first o, kl_O_naki.
Oh Snap!
It was called The Americans and had an amazing 80s soundtrack to go with it. That show was awesome.
The Americans was partially based on real life. We literally traded Russian sleeper agents back in 2010.
The Americans is one of the best shows ever made.
Honestly, that sounds exactly like what the CIA will produce when they need people to support censorship or just discourage people from listening to counter-narratives, the same way they supported the production of Zero Dark Thirty and Homeland when they wanted to support torture and unaccountability.
Don't forget 24. Multiple TV seasons of, "torture is necessary when you're desperate."
A drama like right now about Russians trying to influence world politics? And US elections? I'm not sure if it would be brilliant and we'd be all over it or if we're so sick of hearing about it that we wouldn't watch it
I was thinking Chris Hansen style reverse cat fishing.
Edit: "UwU I'm 35 y/o incel. Won't someone come to my chat room and propagandize me UwU."
No pun intended, catfishing had had a hook. You had someone that had wrapped up their lives and or a serious amount of money into someone there was an emotional angle. Most of the trolls don't really have any belief in what they're saying and it most their drawing people out to fight with them. Definitely a shower thought.
A drama with the Russians would probably only last a week, maybe a month?. Add in China, Iran, and most importantly the US, and you would've got few season to watch.
I'm not sure if it would be brilliant and we'd be all over it or if we're so sick of hearing about it that we wouldn't watch it
Too bad, but the rest of the world would love to see it.
How about a Silicon Valley-like comedy except at a Russian troll farm.
"Fuck you, Guilfoylevich!"
Not right now, but a couple of years ago.
In 20 years, Trump the movie.
[off topic?]
"Lioness" with Zoe Saldana and Nicole Kidman is a weird combination of spec ops porn and Left politics.
"Lioness" refers to a CIA program to target the wives/sisters/daughters of major terrorists. Kidman runs Saldana who in turn runs the teams on the ground. Their latest target is top financier of terror and his daughter is getting married soon...
In one episode Kidman tells Saldana that the West's leaders are too stupid and cowardly to get us off the oil habit.
I think "Homeland" had a plotline with online misinformation farms at some point. That's all I can think of
The oligarchy run media are very much part of the problem so looking to them for solutions is pointless.
I remember reading about digital warfare and how the character of different weaponry can be stabilising or destabilising.
So the example given was nuclear weapons. The consequences of using them are so disastrous that there is no good use case, and so they tend to be stabilising. They discourage use.
Digital warfare is destabilising, because it's very easy to do and very hard to catch, so you're better off using it, even without any declared war.
Information warfare is probably very similar, it encourages use, but that's because it's very low-stakes. It wouldn't be very exciting. I imagine it'd make a better comedy than a drama.
I agree. "Q: Into the Storm" is the only thing that addresses part of it (that I'm aware of).
Didn't South Park do something like this?
It’s not TV’s responsibility to teach.
I'm not asking to be educated. I'm demanding to be entertained!
with power comes responsibility
If only.
More spiderman it is!
Alright people, we're making 5 new Spider-Man films, let's get to work!
All reboots of the origin story. Need to watch uncle Ben die 5 more times.
That show would be boring.
Mr Robot kinda fits with China being the big baddie.
I think I saw that episode of night court guest starting Yakov Smirnoff
The Americans was 5 (I think) glorious seasons of undercover KGB agents in the US.
Well... The boys is actually pretty close. Evil corporation lying to the public and with uncle Sam's support.