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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 92 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Can't wait for a hallucinating AI to report me for assault because I hugged someone in public.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 month ago

Maybe they should require everyone to be happy all the time. I'm just imagining everyone going around with freaky smiles.

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 60 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, he's a billionaire. I guess there's big money on propping up totalitarian regimes.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Let's start by putting up cameras in all his houses.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Maybe that will ensure he behaves all the time ☺️

[–] SandbagTiara2816@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Billionaire wants a totalitarian state, who’s surprised?

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Well how else is he going to fortify his ridiculous amount of wealth from the unwashed masses?

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just gonna tell tweakers those things are full of copper

[–] biscuitswalrus@aussie.zone 10 points 1 month ago

I saw a sign on each street light on a bike path in my town that said "these street lights use aluminium cabling because the copper was stolen".

Your plan will work.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 35 points 1 month ago

Will Ellison and government officials volunteer to be observed for next 5 years to prove software?

(No.)

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You want a dystopia? Because that's how you get a dystopia.

[–] wargreymon@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

The fascists think they die happy.

[–] jherazob@beehaw.org 6 points 1 month ago

They do, one with them at the top

[–] neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon

The panopticon is a design of institutional building with an inbuilt system of control, originated by the English philosopher and social theorist Jeremy Bentham in the 18th century. The concept is to allow all prisoners of an institution to be observed by a single corrections officer, without the inmates knowing whether or not they are being watched.

Although it is physically impossible for the single guard to observe all the inmates' cells at once, the fact that the inmates cannot know when they are being watched motivates them to act as though they are all being watched at all times. They are effectively compelled to self-regulation. The architecture consists of a rotunda with an inspection house at its centre. From the centre, the manager or staff are able to watch the inmates. Bentham conceived the basic plan as being equally applicable to hospitals, schools, sanatoriums, and asylums. He devoted most of his efforts to developing a design for a panopticon prison, so the term now usually refers to that.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I suspect Bentham underestimated the nature of misanthropic behavior.

[–] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Only if I can use AI and cameras to follow police around, map them, and use pattern recognition to make sure they behave as well.

[–] Ferk@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Also I expect there should be more surveillance around powerful people like Larry Ellison, right?

The more powerful, the more important is to ensure good behavior, and the more public / peer-reviewed the AI model and its logs should be to avoid tampering/laundering.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

They consider themselves to be gods and so far better than you and me that any behavior on their part is none of your business (even if it directly affected you and your entire family and community) but if you so much have a 10 minute variation in your sleep they want to know and probably film you when sleeping without any justification and they will tell you to go to hell if you tell them to stop.

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[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nope. It is only for the peons. Dissidents will have ANY behavior be seen as bad and the fascists will be identified specifically to train the AI to ignore them or automatically rule them out as suspects. Blame their victims and not the perps.

BTW, people like Zuckerberg fucking HATE people like you and me. He considered the people who trusted him with their emails (when he was in university and coming up with the idea of Facebook) to be absolute idiots and even more so for trusting him with that information. He lives his life in a way that insures that we know as little about him as possible. He lives in a compound that is impossible to view via satellite imagery AND he has the actual house he lives in surrounded by dummy buildings specifically so that people cannot spy on his with telescopes. He is obsessed with privacy and probably has never been seen on CCTV in years.

[–] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well yeah my comment was sarcasm.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I am aware, but sometimes my autism still demands I write it anyway. In my experience comments read by people can still inform them even if they have no idea who wrote them and the reason why. I just want to leave the world a better place than I found it.

[–] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

I wish I could do the same with veganism :) Spreading love and equality.

But I just get an army of haters.

[–] QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

When you can get ticketed for speeding while your car is on the back of a tow truck:
https://www.the-sun.com/motors/11008328/photo-towing-van-speeding-ticket-evidence/

Or a red light traffic ticket when your car was stolen:
https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-red-light-ticket-camera-illinois-car-stolen-theft/11677595/

And the police/courts won't help you because it's a problem from the private company running the cameras... I think we can see where some sort of AI backed camera network is headed.

A bandaid to fix this might be to setup an easy way for someone to dispute the charge. For every day that it takes the company to review the dispute, they would need to pay back the accused the same amount that they are charging them (with a minimum of paying them back twice the amount of the fine).

Even then, I'd rather cameras not be used in this way at all.

[–] another_kbin_addict@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They will ensure a lot of smashed up AI cameras that's for sure

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Omnipresent super-soakers full of paint will ensure they wont.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

One of those spray paint cans on a stick they use to paint lines on the ground

[–] Chuymatt@beehaw.org 12 points 1 month ago

Don’t try to anthropomorphize Larry Ellison.

[–] Shizrak@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago

Maybe I'm an outlier, but omnipresent AI cameras would ensure bad behavior in my case.

[–] dotslashme@infosec.pub 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why do we even care what these tech-bro ass hats think? We already collectively know his vision apply only to "poor people".

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Because they have undue power over our lives.

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[–] aaaaace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 month ago

We need them pointed at every tech CEO constantly.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

1984 was not a manual

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 9 points 1 month ago

What if we just get the AI cameras to “hallucinate” our good behaviour?

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Why don't you volunteer to be the test case Larry?

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

Theyre already there

[–] FlashZordon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

He proposed a shitty Art Park on Lanai, the island he bought the majority of, and wanted to set up surveillance to stop "vandals".

Worked on the plumbing for the fountains he wanted to building. Those surveillance measures never came to be, yet...

[–] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh for fucks sake can we please stop putting AI everywhere

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[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Shitty billionaire has a shitty take. Shocker.

[–] anarcho_blinkenist@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Shitty billionaire

ah but you repeat yourself

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago

If he really believed that he wouldn’t live in a gated castle.

[–] jaypatelani@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

Like person of interest?

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

Welcome to China

[–] Charger8232@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

AI camera VS. A .45 Magnum

Tune in next decade to find out who will win this epic battle.

Edit: Why does this guy look like Adam Sutler from V for Vendetta?

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Fuck Larry Ellison.

Now he's going for super-villainy against people who've never even heard of Oracle.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

we should test edge cases to ensure safety, let's shove one down this guys' throat

Yeah but what is "good" behaviour?

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