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...whether it was by a cult, by propaganda, by an algorithm, etc...

And did the person ever recover from it?

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[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 77 points 2 months ago (3 children)

"Well, that's just how it is"

Person attempting to justify an injustice they also suffer, without even a thought about whether it being "how it is" might actually be connected to all the people saying dumb stuff like "Well, that's just how it is."

[–] PrimeErective@startrek.website 46 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I learned recently that there's a word for this, which is "thought-terminating cliche"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought-terminating_clich%C3%A9

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] don@lemm.ee 15 points 2 months ago (4 children)
[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

This is one of the few acceptable ones IMO. Sometimes, something is bullshit, you know it's bullshit, everyone else knows it's bullshit, but you have no ability to fix or avoid said bullshit, so... it is what it is.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 19 points 2 months ago

Uggghhh, nothing is more infuriating than hearing "life's not fair" from people in a position to make a situation more fair.

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[–] Yankee_Self_Loader@lemmy.world 61 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maybe not the worst but the most recent one is my father in law. You know the type: baby boomer who had every advantage growing up but didn’t avail himself but still managed to eke out a comfortable life while working at the business his dad started and he inherited. He doesn’t take in the bucks but it allows him and my mil to own a comfortable home in an area that is only going up in value. Anyway…

As you can imagine super religious, super right wing, trump loving, gay hating (has a gay brother that he’s estranged from), you know… the usual. What gets me is remember trump did an interview a week or two ago where he said that all federal employees are “crooked and dishonest and must be held accountable”? He couldn’t agree more! Guess who my wife (his daughter) and I work for? Yeah…

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Have you tried being less of a crooked, dishonest Deep State?

[–] Denjin@lemmings.world 58 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Pandemic.

Person who I used to consider a friend was relentlessly posting anti-vax and anti-lock down stuff constantly. I would continually refute what he posted, with references and data etc but he wouldn't listen.

Highlight was when he posted pictures of an anti lock down protest in "Lisbon" and I went to the lengths of finding the pictures that had been stolen and they were of a dance music festival he attended.

Even though I cross referenced his own photos with those that had been posted, including one that showed him next to someone who was in on of the pictures from the supposed protest, he still wouldn't listen to reason.

He is no longer a friend or even an aquaintence.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 months ago

I'm so sorry.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Jehovah's Witnesses, who rejoice in the deaths of children. The whole thing is utterly bizarre.

[–] Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Worked with one a while back. She was trying to get out. Her whole family abandoned her. She finally went back and agreed to the arranged marriage temple leadership was demanding. Was immediately pregnant after the wedding. Forced to quit her job to be a stay at home mom.

Firmly believe such behavior should be in our modern concept of slavery.

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well my mother said that she would forgive me for rejecting her religion (JWs) if I came back to the church. I was 18. I threw that letter out and haven't heard from her in the 27ish years since.

Pro tip kids: conditional love is not love - it's control.

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[–] Bipolarsilence@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Happened recently actually.

TW: Talks of SA, Maga

Tap for spoilerIn class we somehow got into a debate of politics and it went as you expect. Teacher asks if abortion should be legal, which she agrees but the two guys in the class disagree. The idiot guy starts arguing that the anti abortion laws are warnings for """"the girls who can't keep their legs shut"""". Even when the teacher tried to give examples of rape cases, he just kept repeating it like he was right. The girl, which I'll call Jessy, tore his shit up. Teacher stops the debate and we take a break. I have a lot more respect for Jessy.

I sincerely don't understand how someone can be that fucking deluded, and not see a problem with it.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago (5 children)
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[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Covid. People are still pretending there's no pandemic in 2024.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

Came here to say this. Well I would've said Trump, but same idea.

[–] Libb@jlai.lu 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Less people using public libraries (and reading books to learn stuff) around me because 'who needs to read books when there is everything on the Internet and I can Google anything'?

And, at least as saddening and frightening to me, seeing more and more people willing to censor whatever book, author, or idea, they hate or even they just don't agree with (most often, without even reading it). It's even worse when I see librarians supporting that — it doesn't matter how 'good' their motivation is, censorship's only success is in the promotion of stupid ideas (if not of sheer ignorance), hate and fear.

[–] BitSound@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

On a related note, I think libraries do need a bit of a facelift, and not just be "the place where books live". It's important to keep that function, but also expand to "a place where learning happens". I know lots of libraries are doing this sort of thing, but your average person is probably still stuck in the "place where books live" mindset, as you allude. I'm talking stuff like 3D printers, makerspaces, diybio, classes about detecting internet bullshit, etc.

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[–] lud@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

How is it not going to a library because of brainwashing? Who is doing the washing?

[–] helpmyusernamewontfi@lemmy.today 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

pro tip for anyone who wants to read books but doesn't have access to a library

https://annas-archive.org is the largest library on the internet, 100% free

Koodo Reader is a eBook reader for PC

Librera is another eBook reader but for Android

everything linked is completely FOSS

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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

My brother got fucked up psychologically from murdering Iraqis and Afghans and then came home and started "self-medicating" with meth while spending all day sitting in his house alone while listening to far-right propaganda like OAN. He tried to check himself in for treatment at the VA but they committed malpractice which nearly killed him, and he responded violently, which put a flag on his record making it difficult for him to get help in the future, while at the same time giving him a deep distrust of doctors. He was incredibly paranoid and accused everyone of being part of some sort of conspiracy against him and would make violent threats, veiled just enough to not be actionable. Eventually, he went over to someone's house with a gun, but the cops had been watching his house and they showed up, he pulled a gun on them and got shot in the arm, which he lost the use of, but he eventually recovered somewhat on account of getting off the meth while in jail. He's still a fascist and still listens to all the same shit, but he's at regular fascist levels of paranoid-schizophrenia now.

I don't give a shit about him but the pain he put my family through, a memory is burned into my mind of tears in my mother's eyes as she gets another text and it's another crisis and she can't enjoy even a single night out at dinner because she has to act like a 911 operator 24/7 - and whenever I think about any of the people responsible for the stupid, pointless wars that caused all this, Bush, Obama, Biden, Trump, and all the rest, I remember that we got off incredibly easy, that our suffering was absolutely nothing compared to the actual victims of our country's wanton slaughter and pointless wars of aggression, and I multiply the pain I felt in that moment and the trauma throughout the whole experience by a thousand, a hundred thousand, by as much as my mind is even capable of comprehending which is still only a tiny fraction of the reality, and I focus it into pure hatred directed towards all the people responsible for the wars.

[–] BitSound@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (3 children)
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[–] sakodak@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (5 children)

There are six companies that control a very large percentage of the media consumed by Americans. They are all mega corporations. The media Americans consume is mostly corporate propaganda, and it's invisible to us. It's the water we swim in.

Whatever opinions the oligarchs want us to have are dictated to us.

It is not a coincidence that all our national political races come down to a wire, that we are divided almost 50/50. We are being intentionally divided so that we don't unite and challenge the oligarchy.

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[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place 22 points 2 months ago

That shit is so scary. Those people were ready to exterminate others out of pure hate and brain washing. It made me think about how the more extreme MAGA people today refer to liberals/Democrats. It's like they're heading down the same path. It's insane that that many people can fall into that type of mentality with the freedom of information we have today. They've been trained to only believe a certain narrative, but instinctively disbelieve and see as enemy anything that goes against it. Freedom of thought is not an option for them. Crazy af.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 18 points 2 months ago
[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

COVID, MAGA, Q Anon, support by poor people for defunding of schools and infrastructure even as bridges collapse and water systems are becoming poisonous while supporting building new tactical nuclear weapons that the country doesn't even have a use for unless the intend to start nuking Mexico which would mean more refugees, not fewer....etc.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (5 children)

My ex got radicalized on Stormfront and accused me of "muddying his bloodline".

And yes he did eventually realize that some of that was bullshit, he is not like he was before he got propagandized but not as bad as he was in the thick of it.

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[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The COVID denial was strong in so many people. I remember some stories where people would go to the hospital with extremely low oxygen saturation, be told that they have COVID, and for them to go into a blind panic about getting microchipped or tortured by experimental government treatment, and immediately discharge themselves - only to drop dead pretty much immediately after they left.

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[–] FuryMaker@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (5 children)
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[–] maxenmajs@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

I met a guy who believes the government wants to turn the country communist, ban meat, and make everyone eat insects. He seemed to have fallen for every Facebook boomer conspiracy theory, but these were the highlights. He just talked and the conspiracy theories kept coming out. He couldn't think of much to say that didn't tie into a bizarre narrative.

[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not anyone I know, or even the most brainwashed, but I did watch this video last night on YouTube that was pretty disturbing and although the events are now 15 years ago they ended not long ago and the court case only ended last year.

Guy who is extremely good at manipulating people ends up manipulating like 6 or more of his daughters college friends into somehow dropping out and living with him and forced to do all the requests he has.

https://youtu.be/3aDaKemM7fY?si=GVvY4P-scF8ZUr9a

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

Guy who is extremely good at manipulating people ends up manipulating like 6 or more ... to do all the requests he has.

That reminds me of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strip_search_phone_call_scam, which is so fucked up on so many levels.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What a terrible day to be literate.

Idk if it's hindsight bias or what, but I feel like if some guy called my place of work claiming to be a cop and told me to rape my 14-18 year old coworker I would suspect something is up

Also, that caller must've had OJs lawyer.

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[–] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

My step brother got turned into a redhatter. Trying to stick magnets on my arm where I got the covid shot, the crazy pizza shop basement q thing, it's so bad it's like he has an earpiece in his ear being told what to say by rightwing media

[–] grasshopper_mouse@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

I've met a couple Mormons that were reaaaally deep into the shit and talked and acted like robots just parroting all the religious nonsense they'd been fed. But to be fair, I've also met some cool Mormons who were less into it and generally just good people.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

People who build their entire identity around X.

X = Ammosexuals, MAGA, Muskrats, Gamers™, Christo-Facists, Corporate Bootlickers, etc.

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