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[–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 74 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Trump has always hated the military.

Edit: He has always hated soldiers, I'm sure he loves the military industrial complex.

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 16 points 2 months ago

this is so stupid it's soul crushing, but we can't even stop to avert our eyes. trump can't sign up for the oldest bullshit political ploy that could benefit him: revering soldiers while denying them benefits.

"antiwar, but not anti-veteran" is actually the kind of platitude I would expect. but this. what the fuck is this.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Well the military industrial complex hate soldiers too.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 36 points 2 months ago

TL;DR: Trump is offended that people value those who give their lives for the benefit of their country over those who look good on camera and give him money. And his PR team stands behind him.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 34 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I was reading about this earlier today and I'm still baffled. He is honestly saying that he thinks giving a monetary contribution directly to himself makes someone better than a person who sacrificed themselves to give idiots like him the freedom to make an ass of themselves. I really hope every single veteran sees this and realizes that voting for Trump de-values your contribution. Please know that most of us do actually respect and appreciate your service!

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Knowing what we know about the man, how is this a surprise anymore?

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

As a veteran... I don't hold a lot of hope that veterans or soldiers are smart enough to recognize this.

[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nice, thanks for that link, I had not heard of this group before!

[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 2 points 2 months ago

You're welcome. AFAIK nobody I severd with or the vets I know support Capt. Bone Spurs.

John Kerry was eviscerated by the press for throwing his medals/ribbons at a protest, but Trump gets a pass? Corp. Media needs to change back to local broadcasting with market limited ownership.

[–] Orcocracy@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Hang on, how did a US soldier give Donald Trump the freedom to say stupid shit? Who was going to take that freedom away, and perhaps the most bizarre part of all: why did the soldier stop them from taking that freedom away?

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Heh there are times I do really wish someone were directly threatening Trump's freedom to speak, but then I enjoy how frequently he is digging his own holes lately.

However to your point, today it's more about the US showing strength which generally discourages anyone from trying to attack us. That does include sending our troops to foreign nations to back up our allies. Even when many of us don't agree with the policies like the never-ending war in the Middle East, our soldiers are still heroes for doing their best to protect the rest of us back home.

[–] Orcocracy@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago

Yes, the drone pilots double-tapping weddings sure are heroes.

[–] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Go read or listen to literally any Medal of Honor citation.

If you think a Presidential Medal of Freedom is in any way close to those stories you must be a weirdo.

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

"Conspicuous gallantry" is the key word in all of them. They get rejected so easily if they have bad or inaccurate writing in them, that it takes decades and Pentagon as well as congressional approval including thousands of people throughout the process reading the citations on the award before getting the stamp of approval.

It means the dudes that earned them did something so absolutely fucking brave in the face of 100% certain death to save their battle-buddy or win an engagement with the enemy, that only someone with very specific and slight insane suicidal state of mind would even dream of considering. No one normal in regular combat earns a Medal of Honor.

Fuck Trump.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

Loser president hands out participation award. He's everything they hate.