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If you’re confused: Birds are dinosaurs, crocodiles aren’t; note the β€œclosest living relatives”

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[–] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Though, isn't being part of a group the closest you can get in terms of relatedness?

[–] teletext@reddthat.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's like being related to your family. Most people would consider your relatives to be related to you.

[–] Neurologist@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are octopus related to octopus? I mean technically they’re 100% related, but also they aren’t related as related implies not being. Depends on your interpretation.

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

Agreed. Who shaves the barber? That paradox led to more stringent definitions for set theory.

[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago

Am I my closest relative?

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

"Brother, am I not your relative?"

silently dies

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Forgive my ignorance on the subject, but huh?

Clearly I missed a briefing somewhere. I thought that crocodiles were from that era, or is that the joke that I'm somehow missing?

[–] teletext@reddthat.com 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The joke is that birds aren't only related to dinos, but are dinos themselves.

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So, it's a joke about the fact that both are essentially dinosaurs?

.. nope, I got nothing ..

[–] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, the joke is that crocodiles aren't dinosaurs despite looking like them and being around at the same time, just closely related, while birds technically are dinosaurs, just not the big lizards of 64 million years ago.

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So really, this is not a joke about dinosaurs at all, it's a statistics joke .. which would put this meme in the wrong community πŸ˜‡

[–] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, it's a joke about dinosaur taxonomy. A statistics joke would still fit though, this is science memes, not dinosaur memes.

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I was making a joke about statistics not being science, but it's clear that not everyone got the joke .. pretty much the same as the original meme.

(This is humour, laugh.)

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Statistics is maths, and maths is science insofar that you can't do science without doing maths. And I'd further argue that statistics is perhaps one of the three most important branches of maths to science, the other two being linear algebra and calculus. Also, it's been established previously that maths jokes are definitely welcome here.

[–] ShaunaTheDead@fedia.io 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I actually just learned this recently, but dinosaurs differ from reptiles in that dinosaurs have legs that are under their bodies whereas reptiles have legs that splay out to the side. So all mammals, and birds, with legs directly under their bodies are probably more closely related to dinosaurs then reptiles.

[–] GiveMemes@jlai.lu 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No. Tetrapods and reptiles diverge well before dinosaurs. All dinosaurs are diapsids as compared to mammals, which are synapsids. A dimetrodon (the one with the big sail) is not actually a dino and is more closely related to humans than it is to dinos.

To expand on this concept, all dinosaurs and humans are technically considered bony-fishes as they are nested within the bony-fishes clade, osteoicthyes, but thats probably spelled wrong (this recently was used as a way of protecting some types of animals in a law that is supposed to protect fish as a category), and all birds are technically dinos, so when we refer to non-avian dinos, it just means dinosaurs excluding the birds!