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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by Godric@lemmy.world to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world
 

Also I want to hear from you, is it ethical and why?

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 156 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I mean you have to buy it on your own accord, culture your own cells, and then successfully cook and eat them. As long as you aren't stealing other people's cells to eat them without their consent it seems more ethical than the current meat industry.

[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 93 points 2 months ago (3 children)

stealing other people's cells to eat them

This will become a sex thing for sure

[–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 24 points 2 months ago (3 children)
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[–] Godric@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago (10 children)

But it's still cannibalism, yeah? If someone consented to be eaten before they died or even wished for it, would you be OK with eating them?

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 50 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

We have to draw some sort of line here though. Will this give you prions? Does this end the person's life like traditional cannibalism usually does? Theres a lot to unpack in these tiny man steaks. I'd still rather people be growing their own meat at home in a petri dish than having animals locked in cages for eternity.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In the current hypothetical:

  1. It's screened, you can't legally sell prion meat

  2. It's taken nonlethally as a sample from a consenting human, possibly you

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[–] jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

would you be OK with eating them

are they yummy ?

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[–] Astronauticaldb@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

So, if it were the original cells, then it would be autocannibalism, since these are cloned cells (from what I gather) it's technically not the same thing. [Edit: Personally, it's a bit of a tossup in my mind. I don't think it's unethical, but it's still a weird thing]

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[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 83 points 2 months ago (3 children)

without causing harm to animals

  • Humans are animals
  • Growing me-steak and eating it causes psychic damage
  • Therefore, an animal was harmed
[–] Godric@lemmy.world 40 points 2 months ago

If we cultured cells from someone with an autocannibalism fetish, would it then be OK?

Like I take 1d4 psychic damage whenever I see furries at cons, but I don't think they should have to be banned

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[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 60 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Incoming: nonconsensual meat grown from samples illicitly taken against someone's will.

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 42 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Imagine the network of Taylor Swift DNA trading.

And you know someone is going to fuck it.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What are the ethics of fucking a steak made from a non-consenting Taylor Swift's tissue sample?

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 months ago (5 children)
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[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 59 points 2 months ago

Of course it's ethical, unless I'm seriously misunderstanding something you literally have to make the decision to buy it and then partake in it.

I guess you can use it unethically but by default intended usage it's fine

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 51 points 2 months ago

Would any of you care to taste my meat?

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 50 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Haha I've been saying for fucking years that boutique lab growing meat outlets will pop up selling exotic animal meats and celebrity human meat. We are getting close to that future

[–] fellowmortal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Its not the 'eat the rich' that I was hoping for.... Might be the one we deserve.

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[–] HonkTonkWoman@lemm.ee 25 points 2 months ago (7 children)

“I’ll take a burger, mediums rare, & let’s do a 50/50 blend of Ground Chuck & Beyoncé on Sourdough.”

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[–] cheddar@programming.dev 46 points 2 months ago (2 children)

To me that's more ethical than killing of billions of animals, and the latter is considered ethical. I wouldn't do that because that would feel weird, but not unethical.

[–] Decoy321@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

I wouldn't do that because that would feel weird,

I mean, it's basically homemade spam. It's kinda weird.

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[–] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 45 points 2 months ago (8 children)

I bet I taste delicious!

This is ethical despite it walking the line of taboo. It hurts no one, and if the tissue sample can be extracted at home without causing damage to the donor I see no issue with it.

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[–] LotrOrc@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I would be worried about disease first, but if it's your own cells maybe there's less chance? Prions are terrifying

My second question would be taste

If there's no disease and it tastes good then fuck yeah all in

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

Those cannibals who got prions ate human brain.

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago

What if I want to grow my steak into a hollow-cylinder shape, and also, not eat it, per-se?

[–] x4740N@lemm.ee 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don't you get prions from canibalism

Also if this costs less than supermarket meat I could buy some beef and clone it

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 37 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Yes and no. You get prions from eating a person that's also infected with prions. Basically if you eat cloned meat of yourself it should be fine as you either already have prions, or you don't already have prions. Prions manifest as either CJD if you got it naturally or Kuru if you got it through canibalism.

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[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I would try this in a fucking heartbeat

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[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

It's unethical because you can't safely perform muscle biopsies at home, thus it is a violation of the duty of care, and culturing stratified squamous epithelium and calling it meat(and steak no less) is lying without any benefit to others, which is a fundamental ethical violation.

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[–] molten@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Fuck, I've always wanted to eat human meat anyway. I'd kill for a sample like this. I don't care about morals here. I'm a vegetarian. I just want to know. If my buddy was like "ayy we're eating Dan from accounting's arm tonight" I'd be there with no questions asked. The police can sort it out.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 36 points 2 months ago

I mean, if you'd kill for that you don't need the kit.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 months ago

I’d kill for a sample like this.

oh boy do I have something to tell you

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[–] devAlot@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (5 children)

fetal bovine serum (FBS)... is derived from the blood of calf fetuses after their pregnant mothers are slaughtered by the meat or dairy industry.

I did not know this... and after reading the wiki, I found it rather disturbing...

The first stage of the production process for FBS is the harvesting of blood from the bovine fetus after the fetus is removed from the slaughtered cow. The fetus dies from the lack of oxygen by remaining in the protective environment of the uterus for a minimum of 15–20 minutes after the cow is dead...

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The whole point of this art project is to suggest that using expired human blood serum is acceptable for growing lab meat btw. That's what they used to culture the cheek cells. Took them several months to grow that amount though and cheek cells have very different requirements to muscle cells, so I dunno why they were presenting it as an option. Guess that's why it was an art project and not a presentation at a conference.

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[–] ignotum@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

Man-made man-steaks beyond my comprehension

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (3 children)

By what technicality this isn't cannibalism?

[–] aphlamingphoenix@lemm.ee 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I would call it auto-cannibalism. I think it is a form of cannibalism.

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[–] VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The perfect gift for RimWorld players.

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[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Yes. You consented. It's just more you.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

"Eat my ass!"

"Don't mind if I do."

[–] AbidingOhmsLaw@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Zip2@feddit.uk 18 points 2 months ago (5 children)

What if you have cancer and don’t know it, and just accidentally happen to grow a tumour for dinner?

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[–] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Remember that guy on Reddit who claims he had to have his leg amputated and he somehow got to keep it, and he and his friends cooked and ate it?

That's weird, but as long as it remains their own, or consenting others, I think it's fine. The minute capitalism gets involved I think it becomes exploitative and unethical - long pork in the grocery store fundamentally should not be a thing.

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