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[–] tinfoilhat@lemmy.ml 83 points 1 month ago (9 children)

What if we make it illegal to own more than 2 residential properties. Yes, 2. Why 2? Because it won't pull votes away from assholes with a summer house.

AND let's make it illegal for corporate entities to own livable units, and force them to sell via eminent domain within 180 days.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't make it illegal. Make it unprofitable.

Increasing taxes per property owned.

On 3+ extra taxes and huge fine if not rented for more than 3 months of the year.

We have an issue with comapnies and foreigners apparently buying property in cities then leaving them empty. Tax them HARD.

Much more likely to pass a plan like that then just making things illegal.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Nah, illegal, and a fire sale.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The politicians to make such a law probably have at least 3 residential properties. One regular home in their state, one close their job in Washington and one for recreation.

Anyway it wouldn't solve the issue. It would likely just create an illegal market.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Like that time John McCain couldn't remember how many houses he owned...

That was fun.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 4 points 1 month ago

Maybe he just didn't want to disclose the house where his mistress lived.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The one in Washington DC is rented and paid for by taxpayers. It's part of the perks of being a politician.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are you sure about that? If that's true, it's very new:

Under the new system, lawmakers can get reimbursed for hotel stays as well as utilities and insurance for property rented or owned in the capital. Members who bought property will not be able to claim reimbursement for principal or interest on their mortgage, but rental costs will be eligible to claim. The daily rate is capped at between $172 and $258, depending on the month.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/07/house-finalizes-expenses-plan-00090806

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

Ah ok. I might be wrong then. Normally politicians get a rental unit to live in near their place of government.

[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

so just to be clear, does this mean two apartment properties, two buildings, or two units?

[–] TheEntity@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd say two thingies that can fit a single household each. So no, a hotel or an apartment complex wouldn't count.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In some areas there's nothing but plexes available. I'd say one plex=one property. Even if it has multiple units.

[–] TheEntity@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Then these shouldn't be privately owned as a whole, wasn't it the OP's point?

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

There is some advantages to renting sometimes. I don't think all properties should be for ownership only.

If you have to stay somewhere temporarily for a few years and intend on eventually moving, maybe you don't want to go through all the hassle of buying a property. Renting is a simpler solution.

Or if you don't want to be responsible for your residence, its maintenance, fees, taxes, etc. and rather let someone else take care of it, you can rent and let the landlord take care of everything.

Of course, capitalism and greed completely fucked up the whole system. Without strong regulation, there's going to be abuses by anyone driven by greed.

Not all landlords are rat bastards. Some actually do care about their tenants and their well being and comfort. Just as there are tenants who just wreck everything in their residence and make a living hell for their neighbors and landlord.

I've been on both sides. I rented for nearly 10 years and had to deal with an asshole landlord at the beginning. The new landlord kept my rent the same for 8 years because she didn't want to lose me since I was a good tenant who took care of my home. When my girlfriend and I finally moved in together, she kept her condi and decided to rent it in case our relationship didn't work out after moving in together. And she's had some awful tenants who destroyed her place. Right now she has good tenants and we're doing our best to provide them a comfortable living space while being fair. We're not looking to make profit off the tenants. Hell she's even renting lower than what it actually costs to keep the place! Losing a couple of thousands per year on taxes and condo fees and replacing furniture when it breaks.

But, I gotta say, the rental market is plagued with greedy sociopaths and it's hard to feel any sympathy towards any landlord.

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[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Lol so he just set a bar that property managers will meet every year. 5% is crazy because that's far outside what the average person sees in wage increases. Cap it at 2% or less if you want to help. And pass a federal renters bill of rights. And create a Poland esq public housing program so government can actually act as a counter balance to the private market.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Biden and gifts to corporations wrapped as progressive policy.

Name a more iconic duo.

[–] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Bjden and not stepping down?

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

R's will kill this and continue to blame D's for high rent prices. same as they did with gas. same as they did with the border. republican voters are just that fucking dumb

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Sounds like a good reason to get to the polls and cancel out as many of their votes as possible

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It is something good but he will need to get more aggressive than that to fix issues with rent/housing.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Housing is so fucked it literally cannot be fixed just by the president, any president. We need laws, we need zoning, we need judicial protections for renters, we need private companies increasing supply... But yes: we also need this cap on rent increases. It's a start!

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[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 month ago

Boy, it's a real pity you didn't do this before 2023.

That said, if they manage to craft legislation, the Supremes will torpedo it in a hot minute, as soon as the cheque clears or the RV is delivered.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 13 points 1 month ago

Give us an annual 5% pay raise then. wtf?

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Burying the lede:

But the plan would require solid Democratic control of Congress to become law.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's going to apply to pretty much any good legislation for the foreseeable future. The GOP isnt interested in governing whatsoever. People need to understand that if they want shit to even have a chance of getting done they're gonna have to vote (at a minimum).

Yup. The “O” in GOP stands for “Obstruct”. The GOP has been focused on breaking the government from the inside, so they can then point at it and say nothing works and it should all be privatized instead.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

And if we have it...

Biden will once again make an announcement that as defacto party leader there's no way he can change anyone's mind and we're idiots for expecting him to try

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 8 points 1 month ago

Ah yes a half assed solution

If you really want a one-liner like this just tax empty units with some function (exponential, linear, logarithmic, whatever you want) with the listing price.

And of course you'd need stuff regulating what is an empty unit and punishing misreporting, only allowing leases at that price, etc. But it's simple as an idea.

[–] Asifall@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

This is just a soft rent control which isn’t going to increase the supply of housing.

We don’t need this, we need to tax the fuck out of secondary residences and short term rentals.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This will be one of his first changes to get reversed if he’s replaced by Trump.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There's nothing to reverse, he's just called for Congress to pass a law doing this

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

And arguably there won't be anything to reverse in the future. Even attempting this, it'd be blocked by the republican controlled house.

The sentiment is nice though. My worry is they knows it's only sentiment, cause they know it would never pass. I'm cynical.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 4 points 1 month ago

True. But I’ll take words over nothing. At least it’s some acknowledgment that some thing ought to be done.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How about set that cap at 1/4 average monthly wages for a state or county or even a city.

[–] Kolrami@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That wouldn't work because some housing is much more expensive than others. It might have more rooms. It might be better built. It might be newer. At least a 5% increase cap would scale with all of those things more appropriately.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I'm sure there would have to some modifiers but it would work.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Could have used this like 10 years ago

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