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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 110 points 4 months ago (5 children)

If justice isn't legally accessible it will be acquired by other means.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 71 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The working class has been crushed by neoliberalism for 50+ years and there's still no justice in site. The oligarchs that control "democracy" know there's a high chance they'll remain insulated from all the suffering they cause. They are so confident in this their goal now is to remove the illusion of democracy.

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 4 months ago

All they had to do was construct a society where the working class is exposed exclusively to neoliberal propaganda from birth until death. Several generations onwards, and here we are. Class consciousness is essentially none amongst large swaths of the working class population.

[–] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 35 points 4 months ago

Nice phrase but that doesn't seem to be how things have worked for a while now

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We're not French, unfortunately.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Liberté, égalité, fraternité

We can have them too!

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org -4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

For that, we need mass organization, which is extremely difficult both logisticly (due to the size of the US and how spread out the polulation is) and politicly (decades of neoliberal and red scare propoganda).

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Do you understand that with a response like this the only thing you are accomplishing is making someone with the right idea and passion... less passionate about the thing?

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So give me a solution. How can America organize en masse?

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If only we had some way to communicate easily over long distances, maybe a network that allows for computers to interact like some kind of "Internet".

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes what a shame, that kind of technology would be perfect so long as it wasn’t full of condescending cynical people who constantly shutdown any positive momentum for change that required vision.

Maybe we could have a network of quadcopter drones that delivered notes between people?

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Too expensive, can we go back to carrier pigeons?

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Do you really think I am going to be the guy to say ”No” to bringing back carrier pigeons? Come on, be reasonable, I can’t say no to texting people via literal pidgeons.

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Carrier pigeons it is. The first one should be arriving in a week.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 months ago

Can you send me some spare carrier pigeons? I’m fresh out.

Wait.. so do you tape like spare carrier pigeons to another carrier pigeon and send that pigeon or do you just send carrier pigeons on a one way trip with nothing to carry? I don’t know how this technology works.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Lol no it won't.

[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

we need batman or the punisher lol

[–] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Super heroes will not save us from this shit. Not ever. (Even if they weren't fictional.)

Super heroes exist to defend the (neoliberal) status quo.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Or a general strike organized by labor and student unions

[–] InevitableWaffles@midwest.social 3 points 4 months ago

So a rich guy who can put on a mask and beat up the poor while advancing the arms race with criminals becoming more unhinged or a guy whose family was murdered and starts turning to vigilante justice and became what every cop wet dreams that they actually are?

....Sure. That'll help. /s

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 40 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Here's a 'fun' math problem for the whole family:
Step 1) Find out what a life is worth: What was the amount of money awarded to relatives in the latest court case that had a payout for a death?
Step 2) Find out how much money was embezzled.
Step 3) Calculate the damage done by those fuckers in terms of people killed.

[–] Drunemeton@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Last I read, online mind you, was that most insurance companies use 10 million in their equations.

If I remember correctly that’s the value an average person will earn companies they work for during their entire life. So the older you are the less you’re worth.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 39 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The defendants in that case were acquitted because the income of money from illicit sources could not be determined, according to a court statement.

Sounds like the judge did their level best to find some random way to weasel out of doing their job. "Oh, wait, you can't prove definitively that every single penny of the laundered money was from illegal sources? Guess that means everyone is innocent!"

It can't just be me and my perspective. The world is just legitimately getting worse, in almost every respect. WTF.

[–] 5gruel@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The world is getting better in the long run by almost every metric, don't get sucked into the doomer mentality.

Still fucked up ruling though.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Bro we're about to kill the whole fucking planet and America just legalized political assassination.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com -5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's less people living in poverty today than ever before. We all carry around super computers that connect us with our loved ones at all times and contain all of human knowledge. If you're over 5'8 and weigh more than 145 pounds then you're physically better off than the average US soldier during WW2. Diseases that used to kill millions every year are now close to eradication.

Don't mistake your increased awareness of global issues as things getting worse. This is the best time in human history to be alive. Anyone telling you different is looking at a very specific aspect of the past with rose tinted glasses.

[–] krazzyk@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Without doing any fact checking myself, I've heard this many times before, and I'm sure the stats are there to back it up, but it sure feels like the world is going to shit...

Don't think you deserved to be downvoted for stating facts though.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

The system still working as intended.

[–] maxinstuff@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

“I resemble these accusations!” - Judge