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[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 111 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That should be enough to worry anybody.

[–] Cryan24@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago

From the guy who said 640Kb is enough for anyone..

[–] teletext@reddthat.com 81 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Bill Gates says the massive power draw required for AI processing is nothing to worry about as AI will ultimately identify ways to help cut power consumption and drive the transition to sustainable energy.

The final solution the AI comes up with: Cut the power of the poor, euthanize the old and weak.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago

If it were actually AI I might have some faith.

This isn't a neural net processor, not a learning computer. It's a fucking mechanical Turk. A bad one.

What he's talking about isn't capable of deriving new ideas. It's just going to spit out shit it's seen already.

The library of Babel is just as likely to give us the answers he's talking about. More likely maybe because it's at least already written down.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 9 points 4 months ago

And make paperclips.

[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Wow, that is so dumb. I saw some crack pot dude trying to solve unsolved physics problems by using prompts like "imagine you are Einstein, then how would you solve: ...". Good to see he is not alone, but has Bill fucking Gates with similarly dumb AI takes.

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[–] JoShmoe@ani.social 3 points 4 months ago

Dead wrong. AI is not as reliable as their makers would like to believe. AI is more likely to adopt all the flaws of humanity than make anything “better.” A subjective term.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I hate that they decided to have Morpheus hold up a battery instead of a processor because some empty suit thought audiences were too stupid to get it.

Didn't it also have something to do with a brand deal? Like the suit got extra funding for the movie by making a deal with Duracell to have their batteries in the movie or something.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

how about euthanize the entire planet? Just put us out of our fucking misery already goddamn

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 61 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

640kW should be enough for anyone.

[–] Cryan24@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I have to admit, this one took me a minute 🙂

[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 51 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So if we light the planet on fire to fuel the AI, the AI will then tell us how to put the fire out.

Okay sure, but how about we just... don't do any of that?

[–] RonnyZittledong@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (3 children)

The AI solution will be to stop producing food. That would save enormous amounts of energy.

No more food, but here's half a pound of cricket flour. Meets all your daily nutritional needs!

[–] cybermass@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

Feeding humans is not needed to keep the world saving AI running, so why would we even bother?

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[–] LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world 47 points 4 months ago

Breaking: Rich tech guy thinks that the energy draw from rich tech projects is nothing to worry about.

[–] Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well as long as Bill says it's cool, I guess I don't have to form my own opinion

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

We should at least hear what Ja Rule has to say

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 32 points 4 months ago

Bill Gates shouldn't worry about people wanting to make a tent from his skin.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 21 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Bill Gates says the massive power draw required for AI processing is nothing to worry about as AI will ultimately identify ways to help cut power consumption and drive the transition to sustainable energy.

We already know how

[–] Contravariant@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

In a way AI refusing to recommend using so much computing power on LLMs could well be the first sign of actual intelligence.

[–] mutant_zz@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, this is one of the many things that annoys me about AI discourse.

"We can use it to solve climate change!"

We already technically know how to solve climate change, but politics makes doing that impossible.

And, no, AI can't "fix" politics. We're going to have to figure that out by ourselves.

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Climate scientists: "do these things to fix climate change"
Everyone: "but that's HAAARD and I don't wanna!"
AI developers: create AI
Climate scientists: "AI is drawing massive power accelerating climate change, we need to stop that"
Everyone: "but it can tell us how to fix climate change so it's going to be okay!"
AI climate model: "do these same things to fix climate change"
Everyone: "but that's HAAARD and I don't wanna!"

Yeah, I can't see any way this could possibly fail...

[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Ai told my power company to tell us to stop using energy during the day beucase ai needs the power to do the power co.pqnies jobs

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago
[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Rich billionaire twat who owns a shitload of Microsoft shares says AI is good, don't let the bubble burst. More at ten.

[–] 555_1@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Don’t forget about him spending time on Epstein’s island with a bunch of underage girls.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Or how the Gates foundation fought for the Oxford COVID vaccine NOT to be open sourced, and instead sold for profit, so that it wouldn't undermine his pharma stocks.

Oxford university had previously secured funding from the UK gov to develop the vaccine and open source it so that poorer countries would have greater vaccine access and the rollout could be faster.

[–] BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes, classic tech solutionism.

"No need to be frugal, the tech will evolve and fix the causes of climate change!"

We need a solution right now, not in a decade, dumb ass. So frugality is the answer.

[–] unlawfulbooger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 months ago

Exactly

To quote the post more specifically:

Even as our species destroys its only home, we assume that the solutions to climate change must lie in technology, without stopping to examine the role that this very attitude has played in the crisis.

This is so deeply ingrained in our social consciousness that, when there is a new impressive technology, we assume that it must be here to solve one of our big problems. As the AI hype quickens the pace of our ecological devastation, we're so dazzled by the technology that there is actual debate in supposedly serious publications as to whether AI is going to save us from climate change, despite all evidence pointing to the contrary.

[–] li10@feddit.uk 8 points 4 months ago

Ah, okay, thanks Bill 👍

[–] kbal@fedia.io 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Suddenly I'm worried about AI's energy draw. "6 percent of global electricity" is not a small amount of electricity.

[–] Static_Rocket@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Fuck it. Gun it at the brick wall. Jerry's rigging up an emergency break as we speak. Don't mind that the last piece to said break may be missing.

- Man who will probably die before we hit the wall

[–] kenkenken@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago

I wish to live in a world where the media doesn't consist of articles about how some rich or famous person says or thinks something.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

Can I worry about the fact the most serious AI's are owned by large companies, and that they are being taught to replace artists, writers and creatives?

What a sad fucking dystopia we live in.

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Mr anti climate change says not to worry when it benefits him.

Fuck bill gates, fucking nepo-baby

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

Ricky says Bill Gates needs to shut the fuck up. You have thousands of times more money than any human will ever need leave the rest of us alone you fucking demon.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 4 points 4 months ago

This screams FAITH (Filthy Assumptions Instead of THinking) from a distance, on multiple levels:

  1. Assuming that the current machine learning development will lead to artificial general intelligence. Will it?
  2. Assuming that said AGI would appear in time to reduce power consumption. Will it?
  3. Assuming that lowering the future power consumption will be enough to address issues caused by the current power consumption. Will it?
  4. Assuming that addressing issues from a distant future means that the whole process won't cause harm for people in a nearer future. Will it?

Furthermore, Gates in the quote is being disingenuous:

"Let's not go overboard on this," he said. "Datacenters are, in the most extreme case, a 6 percent addition [to the energy load] but probably only 2 to 2.5 percent. The question is, will AI accelerate a more than 6 percent reduction? And the answer is: certainly," Gates said.

The answer addresses something far, far more specific than the main issue.


If I may, here's my alternative solution for the problem, in the same style as Gates':

Kill everyone between the North Pole and the Equator.

What do you mean, it would kill 85% people in the world? Well, you can't make an omelet without breaking some eggs, right? Nobody that I know personally lives there, so Not My Problem®. (Just keep Japan, I need my anime to watch.)

...I'm being clearly sarcastic to deliver a point here - it's trivially easy to underestimate issues affecting humankind, and problems associated with their solutions, if you are not directly affected by either. Gates is some billionaire bubbled around rich people; this sort of problem will affect the poor first, as the rich can simply throw enough money into their problems to make them go away.

[–] maxinstuff@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Iceland figured this out some years ago, and now they make heaps exporting computing power to international AI compute buyers.

They do it with a naturally cold climate, and loads of geo-thermal power.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 months ago

Least insane techno-optimist

[–] nieceandtows@programming.dev 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Okbuddyretard or wowthanksimcured?

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 4 months ago

The guy who owns the company leading the charge on AI is telling you not to worry about the power that AI uses.

I mean it should go without saying that you should completely ignore this.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Zangoose@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If he was counting his money in $100 bills it would still take him about 40 years,

Edit: assuming he counts 1 $100 bill per second

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