That should be enough to worry anybody.
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From the guy who said 640Kb is enough for anyone..
Bill Gates says the massive power draw required for AI processing is nothing to worry about as AI will ultimately identify ways to help cut power consumption and drive the transition to sustainable energy.
The final solution the AI comes up with: Cut the power of the poor, euthanize the old and weak.
If it were actually AI I might have some faith.
This isn't a neural net processor, not a learning computer. It's a fucking mechanical Turk. A bad one.
What he's talking about isn't capable of deriving new ideas. It's just going to spit out shit it's seen already.
The library of Babel is just as likely to give us the answers he's talking about. More likely maybe because it's at least already written down.
And make paperclips.
Wow, that is so dumb. I saw some crack pot dude trying to solve unsolved physics problems by using prompts like "imagine you are Einstein, then how would you solve: ...". Good to see he is not alone, but has Bill fucking Gates with similarly dumb AI takes.
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Dead wrong. AI is not as reliable as their makers would like to believe. AI is more likely to adopt all the flaws of humanity than make anything “better.” A subjective term.
I hate that they decided to have Morpheus hold up a battery instead of a processor because some empty suit thought audiences were too stupid to get it.
Didn't it also have something to do with a brand deal? Like the suit got extra funding for the movie by making a deal with Duracell to have their batteries in the movie or something.
how about euthanize the entire planet? Just put us out of our fucking misery already goddamn
640kW should be enough for anyone.
I have to admit, this one took me a minute 🙂
So if we light the planet on fire to fuel the AI, the AI will then tell us how to put the fire out.
Okay sure, but how about we just... don't do any of that?
The AI solution will be to stop producing food. That would save enormous amounts of energy.
No more food, but here's half a pound of cricket flour. Meets all your daily nutritional needs!
Feeding humans is not needed to keep the world saving AI running, so why would we even bother?
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Breaking: Rich tech guy thinks that the energy draw from rich tech projects is nothing to worry about.
Well as long as Bill says it's cool, I guess I don't have to form my own opinion
We should at least hear what Ja Rule has to say
Bill Gates shouldn't worry about people wanting to make a tent from his skin.
Bill Gates says the massive power draw required for AI processing is nothing to worry about as AI will ultimately identify ways to help cut power consumption and drive the transition to sustainable energy.
We already know how
In a way AI refusing to recommend using so much computing power on LLMs could well be the first sign of actual intelligence.
Yeah, this is one of the many things that annoys me about AI discourse.
"We can use it to solve climate change!"
We already technically know how to solve climate change, but politics makes doing that impossible.
And, no, AI can't "fix" politics. We're going to have to figure that out by ourselves.
Climate scientists: "do these things to fix climate change"
Everyone: "but that's HAAARD and I don't wanna!"
AI developers: create AI
Climate scientists: "AI is drawing massive power accelerating climate change, we need to stop that"
Everyone: "but it can tell us how to fix climate change so it's going to be okay!"
AI climate model: "do these same things to fix climate change"
Everyone: "but that's HAAARD and I don't wanna!"
Yeah, I can't see any way this could possibly fail...
Ai told my power company to tell us to stop using energy during the day beucase ai needs the power to do the power co.pqnies jobs
oh okay
Rich billionaire twat who owns a shitload of Microsoft shares says AI is good, don't let the bubble burst. More at ten.
Don’t forget about him spending time on Epstein’s island with a bunch of underage girls.
Or how the Gates foundation fought for the Oxford COVID vaccine NOT to be open sourced, and instead sold for profit, so that it wouldn't undermine his pharma stocks.
Oxford university had previously secured funding from the UK gov to develop the vaccine and open source it so that poorer countries would have greater vaccine access and the rollout could be faster.
Ah yes, classic tech solutionism.
"No need to be frugal, the tech will evolve and fix the causes of climate change!"
We need a solution right now, not in a decade, dumb ass. So frugality is the answer.
To quote the post more specifically:
Even as our species destroys its only home, we assume that the solutions to climate change must lie in technology, without stopping to examine the role that this very attitude has played in the crisis.
This is so deeply ingrained in our social consciousness that, when there is a new impressive technology, we assume that it must be here to solve one of our big problems. As the AI hype quickens the pace of our ecological devastation, we're so dazzled by the technology that there is actual debate in supposedly serious publications as to whether AI is going to save us from climate change, despite all evidence pointing to the contrary.
Ah, okay, thanks Bill 👍
Suddenly I'm worried about AI's energy draw. "6 percent of global electricity" is not a small amount of electricity.
Fuck it. Gun it at the brick wall. Jerry's rigging up an emergency break as we speak. Don't mind that the last piece to said break may be missing.
- Man who will probably die before we hit the wall
I wish to live in a world where the media doesn't consist of articles about how some rich or famous person says or thinks something.
Can I worry about the fact the most serious AI's are owned by large companies, and that they are being taught to replace artists, writers and creatives?
What a sad fucking dystopia we live in.
Mr anti climate change says not to worry when it benefits him.
Fuck bill gates, fucking nepo-baby
Ricky says Bill Gates needs to shut the fuck up. You have thousands of times more money than any human will ever need leave the rest of us alone you fucking demon.
This screams FAITH (Filthy Assumptions Instead of THinking) from a distance, on multiple levels:
- Assuming that the current machine learning development will lead to artificial general intelligence. Will it?
- Assuming that said AGI would appear in time to reduce power consumption. Will it?
- Assuming that lowering the future power consumption will be enough to address issues caused by the current power consumption. Will it?
- Assuming that addressing issues from a distant future means that the whole process won't cause harm for people in a nearer future. Will it?
Furthermore, Gates in the quote is being disingenuous:
"Let's not go overboard on this," he said. "Datacenters are, in the most extreme case, a 6 percent addition [to the energy load] but probably only 2 to 2.5 percent. The question is, will AI accelerate a more than 6 percent reduction? And the answer is: certainly," Gates said.
The answer addresses something far, far more specific than the main issue.
If I may, here's my alternative solution for the problem, in the same style as Gates':
Kill everyone between the North Pole and the Equator.
What do you mean, it would kill 85% people in the world? Well, you can't make an omelet without breaking some eggs, right? Nobody that I know personally lives there, so Not My Problem®. (Just keep Japan, I need my anime to watch.)
...I'm being clearly sarcastic to deliver a point here - it's trivially easy to underestimate issues affecting humankind, and problems associated with their solutions, if you are not directly affected by either. Gates is some billionaire bubbled around rich people; this sort of problem will affect the poor first, as the rich can simply throw enough money into their problems to make them go away.
Iceland figured this out some years ago, and now they make heaps exporting computing power to international AI compute buyers.
They do it with a naturally cold climate, and loads of geo-thermal power.
Least insane techno-optimist
Okbuddyretard or wowthanksimcured?
The guy who owns the company leading the charge on AI is telling you not to worry about the power that AI uses.
I mean it should go without saying that you should completely ignore this.
As he counts his money.
If he was counting his money in $100 bills it would still take him about 40 years,
Edit: assuming he counts 1 $100 bill per second
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