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[–] HumanPerson@sh.itjust.works 17 points 6 days ago

Wow, that must have had like 12 shows.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 262 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

The headline they want you to read: "zomg these master criminals were causing billions in damages!!!!1!1"

The headline everyone else reads: "lmao piracy run by a couple random schmucks has an infinitely better service AND content selection than any corporate streaming service"

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 86 points 1 week ago

Alternative headline: "study finds that people don't like subscriptions that tell them to eat shit"

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 42 points 1 week ago

piracy run by a couple random schmucks has an infinitely better service AND content selection than the top 4 corporate streaming services combined"

FTFY 😁

[–] Gsus4@programming.dev 101 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Maybe those services could take a hint and create a unified platform where each partner gets a cut depending on % of their content watched.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 39 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 6 days ago

More like how all the music streaming services work. All got pretty much the same content, just different quality and prices.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 78 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Like early Netflix before they all decided they would make their own shitty streaming services and didn't renew contracts.

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Let me take this opportunity to get on my soapbox to sat this:

Peacock Sucks Ass

NBC / Universal were one of the first movers in streaming with Seeso. Did they learn lessons from Seeso about how to run a good streaming service? No they abandoned it almost immediately basically saying "this whole streaming thing is just a fad, anyway"

The results? Now its hard to watch those old (genuinely excellent) Seeso shows, and NBC / Universal has managed to make itself late to the streaming party when they were a first actor. And the service itself? Ass. Total cheeks. Major butt. Absolute balloon knot. It always has technical issues AND scanning within an episode is hard because it doesn't do it in chunks, it acts like a slider in constant motion.

Conclusion: don't look at Peacock as the idiot child of the streaming landscape. View it as the logical conclusion to media companies' corporate greed. They want you to pay money for a service that sucks, that's chock full of ads (oh! That's another thing. Where do you get off showing me three minutes of ads, Peacock, who do you think you are?), and doesn't even work decently right while a lot of these UX problems have been solved for over two decades (DVD scanning is easy and fine).

[–] Keanu@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At least Peacock has shows that you want to watch. Netflix has a good UI but it's just a bunch of made-for-tv movies and other crap. It's just like TNT or TBS without sports.

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[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There's a very functional middle ground between all in one cable, and a hundred different services.

[–] activ8r@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah. We were there! Or close enough... It was a glorious week where everything lined up perfectly... Then we overshot and we are in this clusterfuck of nonsense.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago

"We" didn't do anything wrong. The people controlling the companies involved did. Don't include yourself with a group of bad people if you're not part of them.

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 17 points 1 week ago

CEO: share!? profit? SHARE PROFIT!?! SOMEONE CALL SECURITY WE HAVE A COMMUNIST!!!

[–] Steve@communick.news 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That was the original idea behind Hulu.
But Netflix had a much better UX and ate their lunch.

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 12 points 1 week ago

That and Disney decided they wanted to break (sorry. Let me use the business terms. "Disrupt") the market by having a vertical integration of streaming platform and production company. The thing is, it did great for the in the short term, but may have harmed them long term. Meanwhile everyone else is now chasing the model that may actually be losing Disney money because short term greed is the only driver in our economy

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 76 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wow, it's really hard to imagine the deep societal harm done by these five people. And you do have to imagine it because it doesn't exist.

[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Entertainment to uplift the spirit? For free? Think of the children!

(Apparently not free at all, $10/month.)

[–] aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 70 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Mentally translating this as: Competition from the free market unfairly prosecuted by a tyrannical state that enforces the monopoly of “intellectual property” of corporations

This is insane. This does not warrant a 48 year sentence; some actual rapists and murderers get off for less time. The “justice” system is a joke and doesn’t prosecute criminals. It prosecutes those that threaten the system.

[–] HumanPerson@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago

To be fair, Netflix and the others all had to pay licensing fees and whatnot. I think governments should simply ban exclusivity deals so that competition can exist.

[–] blindsight@beehaw.org 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sentencing hasn't happened yet; 48 years is the maximum, according to the article.

Whatever the sentence is will be ridiculous since it's just copyright infringement, but hopefully the sentencing goes to a small fraction of the maximum.

[–] aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

Thanks for the clarification. Hope they get the greasiest lawyer they can find outta this.

[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 70 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The group used “sophisticated computer scripts” and software to scour piracy services

that's way too fancy talk for these programs LOL

[–] Warp10Lizard@startrek.website 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sophisticated computer scripts

if (request) { Connection.Stream(video); }

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 61 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's not exactly difficult to have more content than those services when they keep fucking around with exclusivity bullshit.

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago

Right? This dude was probably just hosting all of the content that the platforms removed over the years lol

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 10 points 1 week ago

Yeah... when you pull up stats for Netflix library, you learn some things... Like how little content they actually had. Never cracked 7000 movies... And while that may seem like a lot to a lot of people out there. Those of us that remember blockbuster stores, you ignore like 90% of them cause they're dumb or silly movies that you'd never watch anyway (or stuff you've already watched). Then you can put actual numbers to it... If each of these are full bluray rips (which they're not as far as Netflix goes) they only take up 175TB... It's not a lot of movies at all.

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-netflix-movie-and-tv-show-catalog-changed-over-time-2020-2

It's pretty easy to see how an individual could collect more content than netflix easily. Now add money to the equation... I think it would be possible to collect double or triple netflix easily.

[–] K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lol I think most self hosted media centres over a year old have more content that all those services combined

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

IDK, I've been at it for a month and have accumulated around 3.6tb, I'm pretty sure Netflix alone has way more than 43.2tb in their entire library (>17000 titles globally)...

[–] HumanPerson@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

To be fair, most of Netflix is crap that no one watches.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Guess we'd need to qualify it with more in our personal libraries that we actually want to watch. Lol

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago

Oh yeah I obviously don't have all the crap filler shit they bloat the numbers with.

[–] Packet@hexbear.net 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Five Guys have better service that is free than largest paid service providers shrug-outta-hecks

[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

Five Guys have better service that is free

It wasn't free — they were charging money for it:

Jetflicks, which charged $9.99 per month for the streaming service

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Free my boys they did nothing wrong. Also, I thought the US doesn't go after you with copyright unless you profit from it.

Edit: my bad, they were charging for this. Yeah..

Jetflicks, which charged $9.99 per month for the streaming service, generated millions of dollars in subscription revenue and caused “substantial harm to television program copyright owners,” the Justice Department said Thursday.

Lmao must of us here do the same thing. It's not hard. I don't think I've written a script for this but it can't be too difficult.

The group used “sophisticated computer scripts” and software to scour piracy services (including the Pirate Bay and Torrentz) for illegal copies of TV episodes, which they then downloaded and hosted on Jetflicks’ servers, according to federal prosecutors.

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The average human considers the Pythagorean theorem "sophistication". Let's not take our education for granted.

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[–] unrushed233@lemmings.world 28 points 1 week ago

It's not that hard to compete with the ever shrinking Netflix library

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Give me like $7,500 and I provide enough harddisks for 183,200 episodes. I'm not sure what to calculate for traffic, though.

And I mean it's a bit unfortunate that you have to commit money laundering and/or tax fraud alongside this "business model". It's just not that easy to say: Hey, I would like to pay taxes on this pile of money and I don't want to say where I got it from, it's definitely mine, though.

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[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago

At one point, Jetflicks claimed to host more than 183,200 TV episodes.

Look what they took from you!

[–] VintageTech@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I miss the old Netflix, where discs would come to my house.

[–] TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 days ago

Don't worry, there are still some services out there that do this!

3D Blu-ray Rental

DVDInbox

And Gamefly allows you to rent movies, too!

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[–] kbal@fedia.io 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You should really be more specific. All of them have more content than netflix hulu vudu and prime video combined.

[–] tja@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

They wrote it in the article: jetflix It was even paid and people still used this instead of the legal services

[–] Bassiette03@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Those people won't just stop we should stop them

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