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[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 55 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nobody wants your fucking tips, Microsoft. Stop shoving new versions of Clippy at us.

[–] Durandal@lemmy.today 51 points 5 months ago

Yeah... "off" is the direction they can fuck with that nonsense...

[–] ghostblackout@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Yes ai is cool but it doesn't need to be in everything

[–] ZwoofBlaf@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It could even be in everything, as long as I would have full control of it. When it runs on my computer, under my conditions and managed by me and me alone. Like how my computer used to work before Microsoft dumped all their Microsoft accounts and telemetry and adware and other horrors on us.

An AI assistant can be mightily useful the more it knows about you. The problem is, I don't want Microsoft, Google, Meta or even Apple to know all these things as well. And this is where the problem start. The data these assistants collect will be a goldmine. Of course "our privacy is protected". But yeah that's what these companies always say.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It will be in everything, whether you like it or not. If you're lucky, you'll be able to disable it for a significantly worse experience where most features are locked behind giving up all your personal data. More than likely you'll be denied usage to the entire product, because the whole product will be built around AI. All this AI stuff is just another means of gobbling up as much of our data as possible.

[–] Adalast@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Feature gating behind data privacy permissions needs to be illegal immediately.

[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Can't wait for AI ij my toilet to analyze my stool

[–] poke@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 months ago

Unironically, that could save lives

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 5 months ago

Give it Guillermo del Toro's voice and I'll feel like I'm in Death Stranding.

[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 months ago

prob already exists

[–] Guntrigger@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

AI is cool,

Let it analyse my stool,

Checking me for colon cancer.

Put it in my toilet,

Right in the bowl,

Let it put a lense right up in my hole.

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I feel like they're going to try their best to do it in a profoundly stupid way, but I think games can be one of the places where AI really works.

AI as a means for building out conversations with NPCs and strengthening other world building makes a lot of sense, but like here... They're talking about using it to guide players away from one of the key things that make Minecraft a compelling game. Asking AI 'How do I make a sword' is not as compelling as figuring it out yourself with the context you have available... The beauty of Minecraft is that you can figure out the basics on your own and can extrapolate to... maybe not everything, but most things from figuring out those basic concepts.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

It's just going to be hilarious to break it

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 29 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Okay if it's going in Minecraft we can officially call it for what it is. A gimmick. Every gimmick Microsoft has had in the last 10 years they've shoved into Minecraft.

Remember when the Hololens was going to let us play Minecraft in AR worlds, like on our tables? You know, what nobody asked for or wanted?

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Though i had hoped for KSP in VR.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh VR was very different, Hololens was pure AR though. VR yes there's a ton of games I enjoy in VR

[–] atocci@kbin.social 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Minecraft in VR was cool, did they drop that feature?

[–] pkmkdz@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

There's an unofficial mod that works miles better, it's called Vivecraft

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 1 points 5 months ago

Idk about be, but the AR stuff as far as I know it's gone. That was where you could put your world on a table or something, and watch from a godlike view

[–] Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 5 months ago

vomits in mouth a little

[–] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 20 points 5 months ago

"I see you are digging in a spiral, did you know digging straight down is a faster way to get to a cave?"

[–] Gamers_Mate@kbin.social 16 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Great I went to linux to get away from their AI nonsense. But I still play minecraft. If its in the launcher I will just not use the official launcher though if its in the new version I will have to stick to the last ai free version. If theres no way to avoid it I will have to use a project like minetest or something.

[–] atocci@kbin.social 7 points 5 months ago

Don't worry, the title is pretty misleading actually. The AI won't be "inside" Minecraft at all. In the demo, the player is "sharing their screen" with Copilot from the desktop and It's analyzing what's being shown on it, which just so happens to be a Minecraft window. It's working purely off the same visuals you're getting, there's no extra integration happening behind the scenes and Mojang hasn't added any Copilot code into Minecraft.

The "impressive" part of the demo (and what they explained on stage) is that it doesn't need to be integrated into the game to figure out what's happening on screen, so this should be possible in any game played on Windows. If you're on Linux, you'll never see it.

[–] PassingThrough@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

It’s very likely something like this will only exist in the Bedrock version, so there’s that. And even if they also put it in Java, there’ll be a mod to remove it very, very quickly.

[–] mynachmadarch@kbin.social 2 points 5 months ago

Hopefully the mod community writes an AI removal mod quick. Seems like something they'd do. And I was just about to stand up a server for my friends dangit

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[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Emmie@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Fuck climate let’s put useless AI everywhere at the small cost of 100 ppm co2

Maybe nowadays we should use ppm co2 equiv instead of money whenever we do some investments

[–] atocci@kbin.social 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It's not clear from the title, so I want to point out that they aren't integrating Copilot into Minecraft. It's not part of the game at all. In the demo, the player is "sharing their screen" with Copilot and the AI is analyzing what's being shown on it. It's working purely off the same visuals you're getting, there's no extra integration happening behind the scenes and Mojang hasn't added Copilot to Minecraft on their end.

This is pretty impressive IMO because it means it will work in any game it can recognize without the developers needing to do anything to integrate Copilot.

[–] invertedspear@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Don’t we all just love it when someone watches us play a game and constantly comes in with tips? Now we can get that experience even when we’re alone!

[–] pkmkdz@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago

Backseat gaming ai

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It sounds like it's basically doing what more advanced cheats have been doing for years... Hope all the big anti-cheats block it so a war starts between Microsoft fuckwits and anti-cheat fuckwits.

[–] atocci@kbin.social 3 points 5 months ago

The article seems to be implying that for some reason, but Copilot doesn't actually do anything to control the game either. In the demo, it was just telling the player whether or not they had the material to craft a sword based on what it could see when the player opened their inventory or a chest. It also gave a recommendation on how to get wood to make a sword with, but it can't take control of the game and auto-gather or auto-build or really do anything at all like those advanced cheat clients do. It's more like having a conversation with someone who's watching you play from over your shoulder than any actual cheats.

I think this article did a bad job of explaining what they showed off in the presentation.

[–] lustyargonian@lemm.ee 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

AI is going through an "there's an app for that" phase. 2-5 years from now we'll see where AI actually makes most sense.

[–] d00ery@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Lol. I just found it in my works GitHub instance. I asked what files a ticket refers to and it just returned an error message.

[–] maxprime@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Maybe AI could just play the games for us!

[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

but actually having a thing you can ask highly contextual stuff like "oh where the fuck did i see that thing i need for a quest now" sounds super nice, no need to resort to scrubbing through playthroughs while trying to reconstruct a path there

[–] Guntrigger@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 months ago

That doesn't need AI, just some kind of tagging/mapping system either automated or manual.

[–] Guntrigger@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 months ago

It's great to see AI taking over all of the desirable creative fields and recreational hobbies! Let the robots have all the fun and get the meatbags to do the menial repetitive tasks for pennies.

[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 10 points 5 months ago

If this was used in a really subtle and tasteful way I think it could be very cool. Having a personalized tutorial based on your exact situation sounds great. However, I don't trust that it will be subtle or tasteful given the rabid level of AI pushing from the tech sector right now.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Well how about a huge bowl of Fuck no

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 8 points 5 months ago

Yo dawg, I heard you like AI.

[–] _core@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Pretty soon AI will just play the game for you

[–] ZwoofBlaf@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You will play nothing and you will be happy.

[–] Guntrigger@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 months ago

The gamers yearn for the mines.

[–] shani66@ani.social 5 points 5 months ago

... What? Why? That's... They couldn't even bother to use ai for one of it's actual use cases in video games?

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

They can't just add REI? They need a year of development to make a new mob but just like that they put shit AI when they could just add an item search bar that won't burn a kilogram of coal per second.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

Virus in search of a solution.

[–] Zdvarko@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

The offered it to use at work, yeah nah

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