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[–] Railison@aussie.zone 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Baroque music sounds absolutely shit. Composers try to mix in so many different voices that it’s the musical equivalent of a TV panel show where everyone is shouting over one another.

On that note: harpsichords in ensembles are background noise at best and very few people would notice their absence.

[–] schwim@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

When people complain about new music not living up to old, it just means they've quit exploring and form their prejudices on the pop genre they hear, which has always been the lowest hanging song on the tree.

[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't this usually refer to music on the radio? I think most people understand that there's lots of good music if you look for it, but the problem is the "popular" music is getting more and more formulaic

[–] klemptor@startrek.website -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The thing is, I don't want to have to look for it. Growing up I could turn on the radio and hear amazing music on pretty much any popular channel. Depeche Mode, Billy Idol, David Bowie, REM, XTC, Goo Goo Dolls, En Vogue, Green Day, Alanis Morrissette, Boyz II Men, Sarah MacLachlan, and so many others. It was a preponderance of great music with some shitty stuff interspersed.

[–] bjvanst@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Growing up, everything you heard was new to you. An experience. People older than you was saying the same shit about the music you were enjoying at the time. That's how it goes.

[–] Firebirdie713@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Disturbed's cover of Sound of Silence is not only awful, it is an antithesis of the meaning of the song. Anyone who likes that version better than S&G's arguably doesn't understand the point of the song, and the fact that everyone holds it up as the gold standard of "covers better than the original" is even worse.

A close second is Postmodern Jukebox and their horrendous tendencies to take tempos to an opposite extreme instead of finding more meaningful ways of changing the genre of a song. I like some of their stuff, but the number of people who love their cover of Welcome to the Jungle is mind-boggling to me.

There are plenty of songs that I prefer the cover of to the original (Whitney Houston's 'I Will Always Love You'), or ones that just give the original a modern coat of paint without changing much else (Smash Mouth's 'I'm a Believer'), but these songs in particular are just awful imo.

[–] JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

I think Johnny Cash's cover of 'Hurt' is probably the gold standard of a cover exceeding the origional

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Most rap sucks and it's effects on mainstream media have had detrimental effects on society as a whole.

It literally just glorifies the ghetto lifestyle of being a piece of shit and acting like it's the only way you can live life.

[–] kuneho@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Rap was important and had a clear goal; to inspire afroamerican people, kids to learn, to live their life and fight for their rights. to get up from the ghetto, to keep on going, make them see they aren't alone, they have their backs by the community. (In the US)

this all was rather successfull.

but then, I don't know what rap's function is today. if there is any... so what you are saying, I can aggree with it, but I tend not to forget what was the original goal of this genre, and this is why I can't completely dismiss rap.

[–] mojo_raisin@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Look into underground hip hop, there's all sorts of awesome music of much higher caliber than mainstream rap/hip hop.

Mf Doom, Busdriver, Kool Keith (and his many many aliases), Aesop Rock (not ASAP Rocky or whatever), and I'm sure lots of newer stuff I'm not even familiar with. Digable Planets are pretty big and they're good (and old, like me)

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[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I've dabbled into some underground stuff. I like hopsin for one. I've heard of Mf Doom but couldn't pick out a song.

For me it's less the rapper themselves it's what they're rapping about.

I don't like music I can't relate to and I can't relate to most rap songs. I'm not out here thuggin or poppin caps, doing drugs and fuckin bitches. I don't even really want to do those things. So that erases almost half the damn genre out the gate.

I like certain rap songs like tech9's Dysfunctional or Am I a Psycho or Eminem or NF's stuff but for the most part I can't stand most of it.

And the glorification of "thugging" is what I mean by raps negative impacts.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I've had a hard time getting into Aesop Rock, but he comes up so often I should try again.

I have enjoyed most Busdriver that I've heard, but I admit I often have to look up his lyrics to understand them, and it's probably discouraged me from exploring his catalog more than I have. My fave that I've heard of his is Much, partially because he slows it down a bit.

Digable Planets - I only knew them for The Rebirth of Slick for decades. Took a deeper look a couple years ago and was blown away. They are high on my list now. Love their sound. Good recommendation there!

I've got to also recommend Brother Ali.

[–] mojo_raisin@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I hear you on Busdriver, I tend to not listen to the words and just hear it as a sort of instrument so it doesn't matter what he's saying. But for those that do, I could see it being too much, same with Kool Keith.

I'll check out Brother Ali, I've heard of him but not his music.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

IMO you are in for a treat. His voice is something else IMO and I love his style.

Here's one of my favorites (fairly, ah, opinionated): Uncle Sam Goddamn

Also -

Can't Take That Away (Just nice.)

(Also pretty opinionated:) Mourning in America

[–] mojo_raisin@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Listened to some yesterday and today, I dig it, thanks!

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

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[–] vis4valentine@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Some music is made by and for lowlifes, where I live is Vallenato, Campesina, Rancheras, Bachata, and 90%of reggaeton.

Lyrics about asking for forgiveness after cheating, smoking, domestic violent (being the one that does the domestic violence), admitting to spike drinks and brag about it, simping for drug Lords, and women are nothing but a sex object.

The people who listen to that music is just as you imagine them. Uneducated, sexist, wife beaters, going around in huge SUVs blasting that music outloud with no respect for anyone around then, they are the ones who start blasting the music at 1AM on a Wednesday and doesn't let anyone sleep in their entire neighborhood.

People give me shit for this and claim is "culture" but I think there is such a thing as music for lowlifes.

[–] Moghul@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

While I can see where you're coming from, about 90% of the music I listen to is some kind of metal. Most of it is just about cool nerdy stuff but there's definitely some truly horrible shit in there. I have yet to and don't intend to do any of it.

I think the bias comes from how loud some of these shitty people are. They build the stereotype. For the most part, people just mind their own business, go to work, raise their kids, and bob their heads to the beeps and boops.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Separating the artist from the art is fine.
You can like music by someone who doesn't share your social, political, or religious beliefs with.

[–] walden@sub.wetshaving.social 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I guess it's the same as buying Nestle Hot Chocolate knowing full well child labor was involved. It's ok as long as your sweet tooth is satisfied.

[–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You got downvoted by someone who didn't understand sarcasm so I evened it back out.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Modern electronic music is the spiritual successor to classical music (and modern-day "classical" compositions are just rehashes).

[–] TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Modern electronic music is the spiritual successor to classical music

I don't disagree, but can you explain your reasoning behind this?

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Mostly because electronic music is made by a single composer and that the performance by the musicians itself is not as central to the composition.

And that Mozart would be probably making electronic music if he was born in this era.

[–] rishado@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Upvoted because of bad/unpopular opinion, don't agree at all.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Most hip hop is missing key musical elements and just isn’t good. I have no idea why the genre became so popular.

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Are you a Ben Shapiro fan?

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not saying it makes you like him but he has the exact same take

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 months ago

Well that’s probably the best argument against my hot take I’ve seen haha.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

People who don't enjoy music are somehow missing a part of their humanity.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I know one guy who was raised in a house where they played the radio full blast all day, every day. He likes it when it's quiet.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's different from not having an emotional connection to music.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

He has an emotional connection with music. He doesn't like it.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 months ago

Ahh. Poor guy.