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absolutely agree ❤️

which is why i am very thankful for those who put in patience and effort into encouraging young men to see their shortcomings ~ outside the context of women voicing their experiences ~ in order to achieve a more equitable future for all

Stopping the progressive downfall of society is on all of society, period. What's the end game of alienating half the race?

You're right about one thing. Women can't make men not rape, and it doesn't really fall to them. Does it fall to the good guys, though? The ones who already don't rape and stand up to their peers who have toxic ideas? And, really, are you reaching anyone who needs to hear it with rhetoric like this?

Changing society is a game everyone has to be on board with. Everyone makes up society, so you can't just tell half of them they're not fit and expect it just to work out. Sure, not all men, but quite frankly I'm tired of having to be "one of the good ones". We already decided labeling someone one of the good ones wasn't right with black people, we really need to have that fight again?

Being a model and force of positive masculinity is chad, sigma-pilled, and hot as hell. 🙂‍↕️🥵🐺💪

Telling dudes to sack up is toxic masculinity. I thought we were against that.

Absolutely. Unfortunately, I think the biggest impact of decent men standing up for fair treatment for women will simply be to make the cretins run back under their rocks - certainly good, but not enough. It'll take generational change, changing the way boys are raised, the kind that's been slowly happening with each successive wave of feminism, to truly solve this problem.

I was lucky enough to have a mother who was, despite being otherwise fairly conservative, unyieldingly feminist (in practice and speech, if not in labeling). I was raised with the knowledge that women, fundamentally, are people (gasp), for better and worse, and that society unfairly discriminates against women and harasses them for no other reason than the petty cruelty of a few who benefit and the many who are easily misled or hope to benefit.

Wait Cabracadabra is real!?

I agree with your comment though, taking special care for vulnerable populations is important and when in a privileged position can (incorrectly) feel like exclusion.

I think young men who are at a particular vulnerable and formative age seek community and to make their impression on the world.

That feeling has been weaponized by alt-right influencers to start a culture war in order to stifle class conflict.

This has happened to you multiple times? In what type of situation does this happen to you?

Holy shit I am so sorry this happened to you!?! That is not cool.

ACAB and also abusive women can kick rocks

Acknowledging someone's pain also makes it easier to understand their motives, find common ground, and love forward together

looks up what those words mean

so true

Excellently written!

Take heart. Should the reason be less than stellar, the fediverse protects you by offering numerous venues to share your thoughts.

Fundamentally, you only require an audience who wishes to hear. You were able to come to this place and share anyway. No one can dominate the discussion. It’s a beautiful thing.

No, not caused by, it just feeds the confirmation bias of people who are already on that mental path.

Literally no. Entirely different post you are referencing, one that is still up in fact.

Many of the votes reversed after I made this post due to brigading. Careful, you are spreading a bit of misinformation here, dude. :)

I don't read this as the discussion disenfranchising young men, rather just stating that the broader disenfranchisement of the working class has its effect of making many men vulnerable to far right rhetoric of a day where many white cis-het men did not have to try, like at all (at least, that's the rhetoric).

I read this as saying that we need to counter these societal issues on multiple fronts; not pandering to right-wing men, while also not letting the far right rhetoric take hold of younger men. Offering a good alternative which actually helps them (leftism) instead.