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This is pretty much how it is buying weed anywhere. Everything has been crossbred with everything else so much to the point where it's hard to even know the actual genealogy of a strain. Something listed as an indica can give you crack head energy, while something that claims to be sativa will put you in da ground, much less in da couch. If they're even accurately tested to begin with. I've seen one brand labeling what was supposedly Grand Daddy Purple as a sativa dominant hybrid. It's either not that, or not GDP.
Further, actual research has shown a persons individual biology combined with the individual biology of each individual strain has much more impact on how the strains effect a person than whether they are "sativa" or "indica."
So your relationship with Grand Daddy Purple is your relationship and someone else's may be different, but you can generally be sure you'll get the same kind of high from the same strain each time.
Sure, but GDP is supposed to be the original strain (hence the "Grand Daddy" part of the name, much like OG is supposed to indicate it's the original incarnation of that strain) and the original strain was indica. It doesn't give me much confidence in the lab testing when the lab sticker says it's something it shouldn't be based on the strain it claims to be. Either the grower is lying to me or not actually having it tested correctly.
It's all about the terpenes in it, and knowing if it was indica or sativa used to be a fairly good indicator of the type of high you would experience. Now you really have to experiment with shit or have very knowledgeable budtenders. Especially with concentrates because they often add terpenes to it that may not have been in the strain they made the concentrate from, which affects the high.
While you're not wrong about how things have been crossbred, you need to be re-assessing if old wives tales from the 70's are as accurate as scientific research. "Indica" and "Sativa" were never meaningful terms for the kind of high they gave you, and we never had any evidence to support it except anecdotal evidence.
Here's my anecdote. When it became legal here, I'd try to find what tastes good. Sometimes I'd want to die laughing, others I'd want to sleep. Either way, the illegal stuff I'd had never hit nearly as hard. Then I started paying attention to packaging. Sativa was my laughing drug 100%.
Problem is, like mentioned above, most of it now is "a blend!" and it's bullshit.
Indica is easier to grow
That's why it's so important to legalize and tightly regulate it everywhere.
me as a buyer tbh. green is green
"HASH IS HASH!"
Thats why i hate going to dispensaries. I have never noticed any difference between indica or sativa, and i hate asking for an ounce of Rainbow Unicorn Spoof and half of Banana Creampie. I'm a grown man and i just want some weed to smoke and make edibles with. Normally i get around this by just buying shake, but they didn't even have any at the place i went to a few months ago.
You can do what I did most recently.
I said “you have a special going on, so I want flower up to the limit for the special, good fun stuff, nice variety, preferably heavy on couch-lock weed. You can mix and match and I’ll just pay for it.”
Works out really well. I didn’t have to pretend to give a shit about their claims of how it tasted or what it would do (“smoke” and “high” respectively, per usual), didn’t have to pretend I cared what the names or blends were, like just give me weed please and thanks. Like my dealer never gave me options?? Just give weed, here’s money. I don’t want to talk to you about the weed just sell it to me before this is uncomfortable.
I specify a brand / sativa vs indica and just let them pick one out for me. Haven't found one I had to have yet
Same. I just get whatever is cheapest. Never had an issue.
one thing you should care about is THC %, there's a big difference between say 5% and 20%
5% THC weed will give you a nice relaxing high, the same amount of 20% THC weed will send you so far into space you can basically call it a psychodelic experience
Seriously have my doubts about the accuracy of said percentage. I've had 10-15% knock me on my ass compared to 20-23%
i have my 24-25% from a good source and the blunts i make look pathetic, but then knock me off my feet in minutes
5% turns everybody into the Hat Man for me.
Being on the continuum sucks.
Does smoking more of the 5% stuff get you to the same place as the 20%?
probably would, i'm not sure i don't really smoke that much
I used to go to a dispensary in L.A. that had a wide selection and it was all in glass jars. They would always open the jar and let me smell it before I bought it and I still don't understand why because it never seemed to indicate anything about the weed except what it would smell like... and that's not really a big factor when buying weed for most people, is it?
Hey FlyingSquid! So, like, there are different types of mj aromas, which are solely dependent on the terpenes present in the plant. That's a documented thing. There's a over a hundred terpene types that can result in citrus, diesel, skunky, or woodsy smells, for example. However, as it's been pointed out already, plants have been cross-bred so much over the years that individually named strains don't always have their "known" unique characteristics these days. And that includes smell/aroma.
So yeah, it doesn't really matter anymore. I wouldn't put much stock in how flower smells, because it's largely inconsequential save for personal preference. I prefer citrus-y flower cuz it smells better to me. There's one strain I used to buy regularly from my dealer that had a really strong but pleasant grapefruit smell (and taste, just a little), it was awesome.
Also, wrt indica vs sativa... there's never been any scientific data that can back the claim that they provide different kinds of high, like energizing versus relaxing. It's just not true. Like the meme says, weed is weed.
Yeah, 'weed is weed' always applied to me too. Very occasionally I'd get a strain that I felt hit harder than others, but meh. I just get what's cheapest now. That works fine.
It is a mold test, it is to prove it was stored properly and doesn't smell like an old basement.
That makes sense. It would have been nice if they had explained that at some point.
Naaah, I bought my first bag of weed when I was 11 years old. The dude who sold it to me said, “smell this shit bro, it dank as fuck! It’s the shit that killed Elvis. You can tell by the smell!”
It’s been legal in my state for awhile now, I haven’t smoked in years, and any time anyone has pulled out their weed to show me what they picked up they still pop the jar or bag open and say some variation of, “Bro, smell dis shit. Good shit ain’t it?”
I’ve smoked weed that smelled awesome and barely gave me a buzz, but the smell check is just a part of the stoner culture.
I trafficked hundreds of pounds of cannabis at a time for a decade while it is illegal, the origin of this is for sure a mold test. A huge percentage of weed has spores on it and it was a requirement on purchasing large amounts to do sniff tests for mold. Small time dealers and weed people picked it up and are aping oenophiles but it is really important you learn how to identify mold on weed by smell, I still smell it in dispensaries and those are the bags I pass on.
edit to say it's not to say there aren't people who can learn a lot about weed with a trained nose, but these types of strains and rigidity with genetics didn't come until long after we've been sniffing bags. The only thing most people can smell without training is mold though, I highly recommend you do this, no one wants moldy weed.
They did that during the medical years in my state too (AZ), but after legalization I started seeing the samples go away and start being replaced with labels on the product that not only tell you the name of the strain, but also THC and CBD percentages (sometimes CBN & CBG too), harvest date, and even terpene profile as well.
But even then, I'm finding that price tends to be more of an indicator of quality than the raw numbers. I've had $70 dabs with 65% THC hit harder than the $20 stuff that contains 80%+. The growing and manufacturing process can make a seemingly lesser product hit harder than one with numbers that look good.
I wish there was something like a Scoville scale for weed: measuring potency simply by having a panel of people test the product and put a number to how high it makes them feel, just like how chili pepper spiciness is measured.
I have heard that there's some fudging the numbers going on in the legal weed industry in Canada, e.g. growers only testing with labs that produce "favourable" results.
Like others, it comes down to mold, and what I would call the "skunk factor". IMO that's the worst part of smoking this stuff. If I could get something legitimately marketed as "low sulfur" I would probably change careers if that's what it took to keep it on shelves. Otherwise, it's edibles for me.
Maybe more seasoned users know how a given flower works on your brain based on odor, but that's not me.
First, the whole “Indica - Sativa” thing is a joke, the amount of genetics and number of factors that go into weed makes this distinction totally meaningless
Second for a lot of weed users the taste is important (and smell is taste for all intents and purposes), and it also allows people to directly assess the type of weed and it’s quality just as well if not better than staring at the weed in a bag.