Big ups to the Jews speaking out against israel trying to abuse their name to commit Genocide. Take their "anti semitism" shield away.
this post was submitted on 11 Mar 2024
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Am I crazy or have I not seen most of the Jewish population speaking out against what the Israeli government is doing? Isn't it something like an 85% disapproval rate of their government of Israeli citizens too? This is what is making me confused with a lot of the attacks I've seen on the Jewish population of the world, it seems they're much more against the governments actions than I've been reading Palestinian peoples views of Hamas.
Netanyahu is deeply unpopular in Israel for other reasons. That doesn't translate into more support for Palestinians within Israel.
As for Palestinian support for Hamas or the actions of Hamas, Palestinians cannot be clearer, given the circumstances under which they find themselves Hamas represents the resistance to Israeli occupation, apartheid and genocide.
It's not possible to draw an equivalence between the two.
Outside of israel opinions differ a lot. Especially because the Jews don't believe that they are entitled to commit Genocide to steal a country.
Nobody is attacking Jewish populations of the world. Only Zionists. Though israeli lobbies such as ADL report any criticism of israel as "anti Semitism".
Inside of israel it's different. Israeli Zionists massively support killing off Palestinians. Not surprising since they live there and genuinely believe they are the Ubermensch that is entitled to expand their Lebensraum.
From January:
75% of Jewish Israelis Reject U.S. Demand to Shift Gaza War to New Phase, Poll Finds
Mostly it’s the Christians that support Israel… they want to bring about the end times and they think that the Jews destroying the Muslims is the only way to make it happen. I really wish I was making this up. They are indeed that stupid.
being hijacked by an occupation which has led to conflict for so many innocent people, whether the victims of October 7 in Israel or the ongoing attack in Gaza.
Good to see some sanity, someone pointing out that the loss of life on October 7th was ultimately caused by the occupation. Had there been no occupation there would not have been an Oct 7.
Terrorism is like advertising. It works.
Many people are now learning the history of the conflict who never would have paid attention otherwise.
Instead of getting mad that oppressed people are fighting back, maybe we shouldn't oppress them in the first place.
I’ve been fascinated by propaganda all my life, and being able to take exactly what people are actually doing and twist it using an ingrained cultural perspective is so incredibly easy and effective.
At some point when people ask about the Holocaust, we're going to have to start asking "which one?"
I mean this is a clear case of antisemitism isn't it? I'm shocked I tell you
~~It’s very annoying that I can’t find the source anymore but~~ I read that despite making up 1% of the population, in Germany up to a third of all people accused of antisemitism in the past months were Jewish.
Honestly, I am so disappointed and embarrassed by the way the German government is handling the crisis. It is awful.
It's not surprising at all.
I don't remember where I read it but some Zionists do not consider non/anti Zionist Jews to be real Jews. So yes, they would consider this antisemitic. If I find the source I'll add it here.
So long as we are anecdotal, that has not been my experience.
Judgments along observance lines, and people thinking those in some denominations are crazy or lesser, but I haven’t seen it drawn on those lines.
Generally the same kind of a thing you’ll find in any religion, or any fandom for that matter— those who are more observant or more dedicated may say the less observant/dedicated aren’t doing it right; the less observant/more casual may say the more observant/dedicated are crazy.
By who?
They just said by zionists.
It's possible that @ABCDE@lemmy.world replied to an earlier version of my comment where it said 'for many Israeli's' or something like that. I edited my comment before I saw their reply. Anyway, I edited my initial reply for clarity but I don't think it will help because my phrasing makes it sound like I'm the one who thinks the director's comments are antisemitic. I don't.
The confusing bit is that "Zionist, non-zionist or anti-zionist" reads like a list lacking an Oxford comma. You have to realize that reading makes no grammatical or logical sense then go back and realize the intended syntax.
A more clear way to put it might be: "but some Zionists do not consider non/anti Zionist Jews to be real Jews. So yes, they would consider this antisemitic"
Good to see from Jonathan.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Jonathan Glazer, the director of Auschwitz-set film The Zone of Interest, won cheers and applause at the Academy Awards for a speech in which he decried the current conflict in the Middle East.
Glazer took to the stage to accept the Oscar for best international film – the first time Britain has won the prize – for his German-language, Polish-shot adaptation of the Martin Amis novel.
Glazer – who, like Wilson, is Jewish - continued: “Right now we stand here as men who refute their Jewishness and the Holocaust being hijacked by an occupation which has led to conflict for so many innocent people, whether the victims of October 7 in Israel or the ongoing attack in Gaza.”
She recounted how she had cycled to the camp to leave apples, and how she had found the mysterious piece of written music, which, it turned out, had been composed by an Auschwitz prisoner called Thomas Wolf, who survived the war.
It defeated a field that included Spanish-produced air crash drama Society of the Snow, directed by JA Bayona, and Japanese toilet-cleaner character study Perfect Days, directed by Wim Wenders.
Anatomy of a Fall, Zone of Interest’s main non-English-language rival on the awards circuit this year, was not nominated, after France’s Centre National du Cinéma et de l’Image Animée instead put forward the Juliette Binoche foodie drama The Taste of Things as the country’s submission.
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Awful TLDR. Talks about Glazer, says he then she.
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