this post was submitted on 16 Mar 2024
27 points (100.0% liked)

Technology

58507 readers
5244 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

From the article: "Unsurprisingly, this skyrocketed searches for the best VPNs. According to a SlashGear report sent to Mashable, searches for "Texas VPN" jumped by 1,750 percent in the past day. It also spotted a 1,600 percent increase for the phrase "How to access Pornhub.""

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago (6 children)

At some point, Republicans will surely cross the line where their policies are so unpopular that people stop voting for them, right?

[–] scoobford@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They are heavily entrenched in Texas. They will have to badly piss off most people enough that they all go vote in the same cycle.

Our state government has actually been getting much more radical over the past few years, because the only people who vote are conservative radicals, because everyone else is either apathetic or aware that their vote won't matter unless millions of people suddenly wake up tomorrow and vote.

[–] JackiesFridge@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Millions of people not voting because it would take millions of people voting to elicit positive change and nobody is doing that is one of the most frustrating things.

[–] Tinks@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I refuse to be part of that group. I'm a democrat living in KS and I vote in every single election I can. My candidate may not win, but damnit they will count my vote and know that I dissent.

[–] Bear_pile@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

I look at it as earning my right to bitch about our elected officials

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] MostlyGibberish@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

Not as long as there are minorities to blame for everything.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Not as long as the other guy is some dirty liberal who believes in socialist conspiracies like the holocaust having actually happened....

(Yes this is sarcasm, not actually saying the holocaust didn't happen)

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I've never really understood why they claim it didn't happen, it's not like they were the ones doing it so I don't understand why they feel the need to protect themselves by claiming its non-existence.

Meanwhile the actual people who did do it fully acknowledge that it happened, was bad, and have taken steps to ensure it never can be allowed to happen again.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's a recruitment tactic mostly, they all know that it happened, but they hope they can reach those who pride themselves on being open minded by saying "What if it didn't?" or "Hey, they seem to get REALLY made at people who are just harmlessly asking questions?"

So that they can be "Heard out", and hope to indoctrinate you.

This tactic sadly works, and it's why you can't just "Debate them and challenge their idiocy in the free market of ideas."

They simply won't play the game fairly and in good faith. An honest debate is between two parties hoping to better make their positions understood, but if you're not honest about what you believe in or why, the whole process has the rug pulled out from under it.

[–] jhulten@infosec.pub 2 points 6 months ago

Unfortunately that isn't how identity politics works.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Something something… Leopards ... Face eating …

I doubt it.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

the old guys with piles of old greasy porn mags grinning with their remaining teeth.

[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

They are trying their damndest with this and going after IVF, but so far it hasn't moved the needle too much.

[–] sagrotan@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

They "right porn" to keep it entirely out of the public eye so they can follow their illegal and inhumane sexual shit in private. You're searching for the real perverted bastards? The one's who's shouting against sexual freedom the loudest. Search their computers.

[–] pop@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Lots of shady free VPNs out there from Chinese/Russian companies. Now instead of just letting people watch porn, they'll send their data to a shady/foreign entity. The apps will ask all the permissions, and people who don't know shit, will grant them.

Same thing will happen when they ban Tiktok.

Well done, You played yourself.

[–] Kekzkrieger@feddit.de 3 points 6 months ago

I dont think so, Texas finally solved the problem with porn, now nobody can watch it and everyones life (and children) are finally safe.

/s

[–] ferralcat@monyet.cc 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Definitely no shady VPNs run by white westerners though. Theyve all got impeccable morals through ans through. Glad you cleared that up.

[–] Evil_incarnate@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

Let me make it clear folks, nobody has better morals than white people, believe me. They're tremendous, the best. They follow the rules, they respect authority, they're just fantastic. I mean, look at me, I'm the best example of great morals, and I'm white, folks. White people, they're winners, they know how to do things right, they're tremendous patriots. So let's make America great again with the incredible morals of white people leading the way.

[–] McDropout@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

The outlook on everything on Lemmy is driving me away from the platform. I’m not saying other platforms are any better. I might just stop using it.

The same people who complain about government propaganda are the same people who type “Russia bad! China bad!” like it’s not decades of propaganda to make westerners hate these countries.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] pathief@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Just use proton VPN, the free tier should be enough.

[–] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 1 points 6 months ago

His argument is that the average person won't know any better and will just take the first sponsored result for "free VPN" of Google

[–] blazera@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I wonder how many people here never saw porn before they were 18.

[–] GratefullyGodless@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

When I was a teenager, we got our porn the old fashioned way, by shoplifting it from the magazine rack at the convenience store.

[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Saw what now?

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What if it was just lobbying from the VPN industry this whole time?

[–] BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Probably the politicians bought VPN stock just before this was ruled. Just like so many "randomly" happened to buy video conference stock just before the COVID lockdown?

[–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

In a perfect world GeoIP should be illegal.
Let's see if Elon's satellites will bring uncensored internet to every inch of the planet.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 1 points 6 months ago

I should register bringbacktheporn.tx.

[–] bloopernova@programming.dev 1 points 6 months ago

Go on, Texas, try to ban VPNs.

[–] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I just connected my VPN through texas and tried to access.

Yep! Good thing I don't live there.

Proton VPN and Mullvad are both great choices.

If you're stupid and still pay for regular streaming services, mullvad gets blocked by things like netflix and disney plus. But Mullvad is great for privacy and great for games, especially P2P online games.

Don't let salty losers dox you, use a VPN when you do PVP online

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

the porn must flow

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

To be fair current age verification is useless. We all know clicking a button does not verify anything.

Also we know that submitting personal data to a website to verify your age is terrible. Big no no.

I'm curious of what will happen in my country. Here in Spain government said that they will implement a new age verification system using Anonymous digital certificates. The government will issue those and you have to give your ID but the certificate itself it's anonymous and the website won't be able to know who is the person behind the certificate. While there's no implementation yet, I hope they use the kind of anonymous certificates that, once expedited, the government also does not know who is using the certificate when serving as a certificate authority to validate its authenticity.

Let's see how it goes. I'm afraid even while being privacy friendly with this system Pornhub will block access here to as a threat to other places. At the end is a private company and blocking minors from accessing their content cost them big money, and, of course, money is the only thing that matters to them.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

To be fair, who gives a shit about age verification?

I do not care what your child does on the Internet.

[–] MostlyGibberish@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

Right. Why do I have to submit a retinal scan and 3 forms of ID to watch porn because parents can't be bothered to learn basic computer skills and monitor their own children?

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

It IS possible from a technical standpoint to be able to do anonymous age verification. I can think of several methods that would work but the issue is I’d have to trust a company or the government with this information and trust them to not do something stupid with it like using it for nefarious purposes, selling it, or just not protecting it well enough. And with all the data brokerages and security breaches in the news there is no way I’d ever do that. Just not gonna happen. This data is just too valuable to trust any single company with it.

To me this is absolutely a 1st and 4th amendment issue. We are quickly devolving in an American religious state ruled by morality police.

[–] jhulten@infosec.pub 1 points 6 months ago

The certificate may be anonymous to website hosts, but it won't be to the Spanish government. Otherwise you copy Grandpa's cert and pass it around school.

[–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

In the Netherlands we have this app that could be used for it https://www.yivi.app/en it's open-source, developed by an ngo in collaboration with a Dutch university. It's not very widely used yet, but the idea behind it is really good.

[–] unbroken2030@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Outside the issue of yet another competing standard to do the same thing, there's an inherent issue with verification in these kinds of apps. That is, how the identity is actually verified for the account. Is it the government itself, a for-profit company partnered in some way with governments, something else? The issue begs the question, is this something we should have in the first place?

I don't think so. And it seems to me that those who do likely don't realize how much of a slippery slope it is to complete privacy erosion. Others are simply trying to live their life and this is very far down on their list of worries. Yet here we are, where services are built around the assumption that every user has a phone (and phone number).

Some relevant media to the topic: xkcd 927 Electric Dreams S1E9

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure the people who legislated all this into place were the first ones to access a VPN to get onto PornHub

[–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I suspect they invested in companies that sell VPNs.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Kape technologies comes to mind, which owns Private Internet Access, CyberGhost, and ExpressVPN, and is in turn owned by an Israeli billionaire

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teddy_Sagi

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Is there a wesbite that hosts all these connections? I'm sure if we could see the web of relations there'd be a little but of reasoning on top of this dung pile.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

... Then they banned VPNs. Thanks to the Republicans we have scorched sky's... We don't know who stroke first, but without Internet we are now a real communicative country with people who..... Billy! Put your rocks down man! I'm trying to tell you s story about how important Republicans are to us and yet you choose to distract the entire class with your rock tossing game!

[–] tal@lemmy.today 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

There's a certain argument that it might be preferable from a privacy standpoint if people used VPNs in general, though it sure isn't ideal from a performance standpoint.

[–] laxe@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

It also costs money. For many people, every monthly fee makes a difference.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

oh yes, routing all traffic into limited number of bottlenecks is excellent for privacy 🤣

[–] CucumberFetish@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

I mean, it is?

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

A lot of my traffic goes to CDNs, and all of it is encrypted over https. Why should I pay for a vpn?

[–] tal@lemmy.today 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

encrypted over https

The TLS handshake will generally -- through there are some ways to avoid this, and people are banging on it -- expose hostnames in the clear. So even if the IP address that you're talking to serves multiple virtual hosts, your ISP is likely to know who it is that you're talking to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Name_Indication

Even if your browser is using DNS-over-HTTP, which it may or may not be doing, most software doesn't, so outside of your browser, DNS is generally visible.

Some protocols still are not encrypted; I was looking at MUDs the other day, and few of them support encrypted connections. The networks that I'm most worried about are random WiFi access points, and VPNs solve that well.

The network provider can still see which addresses and ports someone is connecting to and to where the traffic goes, and how much traffic is sent.

Some network providers blacklist material -- as is the case in OP's article. For example, one of my first experiences on the Threadiverse was kbin sending me to a random discussion on policy that Ada (the lemmy.blahaj.zone admin) was having with some gay user who lived somewhere in the Middle East. Lemmy.blahaj.zone had been blocked in that country -- the country presumably didn't like something related to the server having LGBT content. The Threadiverse is semi-resillient to that -- they could still connect to a federated server and see comments. But it meant that images on lemmy.blahaj.zone were blocked in that country.

For another contemporary example, Russia has cracked down on politics online. Can't block access to content without killing off VPNs, and they went after those too.

For people who maintain a long-running IP address, it's possible to cross-correlate logs from various services. So, okay, let's say that a given IP address has been logged downloading BitTorrent content. That same IP address is linked to, at various times, use of an app where a particular unique phone ID has shown up, or maybe that a user has logged into some account service on, which is linked to personal information. Even a party who is not someone's ISP can cross-correlate logs using the IP. A VPN doesn't absolutely avoid that, but it makes it harder.

Without a VPN, anyone can get at least a rough geographical location of a user by geolocating their IP address. IPv4 scarcity has made this harder than it once was, reduced geography/address correlation, but I expect that IPv6 will make it easier.

People don't need to write their network software securely. Your cool multiplayer network game may-or-may not be encrypted and may-or-may-not be resillient to modified network traffic. If there are buffer overflows in how Quake or whatever handles network traffic, I'd rather not let the network provider be an attack vector. This has been exploited before, and while a typical ISP probably isn't generally a real risk, I'd trust random WiFi networks a lot less. A VPN will get cleartext traffic off their network.

Probably more, but that's some off-the-cuff.

load more comments
view more: next ›