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Donald Trump, who is not the president, is using a minority of Republicans to block aid to Ukraine, to undermine the actual president’s foreign policy, and to weaken American power and credibility.

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 155 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Because Putin owns him. I thought that was obvious.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 63 points 8 months ago

Indeed I wish reporters wouldn't dance around the obvious.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 15 points 8 months ago

Man does literally everything that would help Putin.

"Conservatives": He's the toughest president ever on Russia! You have TDS! Ukraine are Nazis!

...I hate this reality

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

He had meetings with Putin without anyone else present while being president. That alone should disqualify him from holding any public office, let alone becoming president again.

[–] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

The article is more of an exploration of the consequences of the failure of the US to support Ukraine. Not sure why they went with that headline.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 65 points 8 months ago

The article makes is all very obvious but the author is too cowardly to spell it the obvious conclusion: the only one who benefits from all this bullshit is Putin. The only rational explanation is that Trump is acting in Putin's interest against the US.

[–] lostinasea@lemmy.world 58 points 8 months ago (1 children)

At best it's because it's because he doesn't want Joe Biden and the Democrats to look good before the upcoming election. At worst it's because he's Putin's bitch doing whatever his master says. Personally, I believe he's a piece of shit traitor and so too are all the Republicans that follow and listen to him.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 31 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

There have been so many examples of Trump protecting and sweet talking Russia and Putin, and he has been surrounded by Russians in all kinds of situations, financial and his security, that there is no reason to believe there are 2 options here. Trump is a traitor to USA, pure and simple.

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 40 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Smells like all Republicans are traitors

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 13 points 8 months ago (3 children)

There are a number who aren't, like Liz Cheney. It's possible to disagree almost completely with somebody on policy, and still recognize that they're not a traitor.

Not that the rest of the Republican party accepts them or will allow them to win a primary anymore.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Do Republicans who got kicked out of the party still count, though?

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Right, but that is what it smells like.

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Exactly, they are no longer the same thing. Maybe it's finally time to realize there are more than two options.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 0 points 8 months ago

If you're a longstanding Republican and looking for another home, that's not a bad idea. If you want the Republicans to lose the next election, you need to actively vote for a Democrat. These three scenarios show why:


Scenario 1:

D - 9 votes

R - 10 votes

T - 0 votes

Republican wins


Scenario 2:

D - 9 votes

R - 9 votes

T - 1 vote

Tied election, decided by a coin toss


Scenario 3:

D - 10 votes

R - 9 votes

T - 0 votes

Democrat wins

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I mean, that line of reasoning can get a bit dicey. Given that they're in the electoral majority, I think that technically makes the Democrats traitors.

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Your "given" is false.

I'll grant you this - Republican leadership are all traitors.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The Nazis were traitor to the German nation, didnt matter that they were the majority.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

The Nazis were a nationalist movement with enormous support within the German state. Who were they betraying, exactly?

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

So Trump is the deep state

[–] Coach@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

Because a vote for R is a vote for Russia.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Question is why is he allowed to dictate policy?

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 16 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Republicans control a majority of the House of Representatives, giving them the power to block spending. They do what he says.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Why does the article focus on the small minority of Republicans when the rest of the Republicans are complicit in blocking the aid too? Only a few Republicans need to vote in favor of the aid to pass.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

this is why all republicans are bastard fascists. they vote in lock-step regardless of literally anything.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It is unfortunate that All Republicsns Are Bastards (ARAB) wouldn't be a good acronym, because that would have dovetailed nicely with ACAB.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How about All Neoconservatives Are Losers?

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

All Conservatives Are Bastards.

[–] RedditReject@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

It has to be brought to a vote, which is the responsibility of the speaker of the house, who is a Republican. There is a way around that, but I think it would take more than just a few Republicans

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

That’s the proximate cause. The ultimate cause is that the Republicans stand no chance if they alienate Trump’s base. Many of them would prefer it if he went away but they can’t make it happen.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Because the Republican House Reps listen to him and want to appeal to his political base. And because right-wing news media pushes a ton of Trump-friendly media advocating against further funding of the Ukraine War.

If you really get under the hood of this thing, the Republican positions is that Americans should be allied with Russia and at war with Ukraine because Ukrainians are gay woke liberal pedophile soyboys, while Russians are Based Western TradCath Chads. What gets even nuttier is that Republicans still despise China, and believe they need to ally with Russia against China in a war over the South Pacific.

Trump's not even really leading on this issue so much as echoing what the right-wing press regularly puts out. The real hand behind the throne is a cartel of industrialist billionaire hold-overs from the John Bircher movement of the 1960s, plus their larger network of talk radio, TV, newspaper, and social media talking heads parroting their message.

[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

He's just taking orders from his boss.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Just remember that turnip was willing to suspend aid for Ukraine unless zelenskyy made a particularly statement supporting his narrative.

trump is a wanna-be fascist dictator. why is he wanting a foreign dictator to win? because hes fucking jealous. he admires putin