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Warner Bros. Discovery is on the eve of launching Max, its new streaming service that combines the already-existing platforms of HBO Max and Discovery+. But don’t expect Aubrey Plaza to be am…

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[–] TheFrenchGhosty@lemmy.pussthecat.org 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

iTunes is literally the same as streaming though.

You rent access to the content for as long as the platform wants.

DVD/Bluray are the solution to this... except not everything is released like that...

In the end, piracy wins... again... like it always has...

[–] interolivary@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the end, piracy wins… again… like it always has…

Ain't that the truth. And honestly I don't want to pirate media. I'd rather pay so I could support content creators, but I don't want to support this "you don't own anything, you're only licensing it out temporarily from corporations and they can fuck you over any time they feel like it" bullshit either.

[–] variants_of_concern@lemmy.one 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really wish there was a way to just buy a digital file of a movie I want so I can have it on my plex

[–] interolivary@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right? That doesn't sound like it's a lot to ask

[–] borlax@lemmy.borlax.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It makes sharing the media easier and the more media is shared, the less people have to buy it or pay to stream it. It's just an attempt to throw a wrench into a situation that is gonna happen anyway.

[–] interolivary@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Oh I get the rationale, but like you said it just slightly delays the inevitable

[–] jamesw@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You rent access to the content for as long as the platform wants

Yeah I've had movies I "bought" on Apple disappear and they just offer a free rental when you finally notice and complain. They expect you to download everything you buy when you buy it and sync it between devices if you want to keep it.

[–] paco@infosec.exchange 6 points 1 year ago

@jamesw In the old days, if you bought a dvd, it was your job to make sure it didn’t get scratched up, lost, etc. You had to make sure you kept a DVD player in working order if you wanted to watch it. Likewise for books. You buy the book and it’s your responsibility to keep it intact to read it. So if they let you download it once and keep it forever, that seems reasonable. If they make you download it every time you want to watch it, that’s a service, not a purchase. Asking them to maintain an online service so you can download it again if you lose it, though, doesn’t match the idea of “buying” as much as it matches the idea of “renting”.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We're at the stage where owning media is a news-worthy concept. (and no, iTunes is not owning your media either, it's licensed, but how crazy would the headlines be if she bought physical media)

[–] freeman@lemmy.pub 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The thing is…a lot of media will never hit physical copies.

Has anything from Apple TV+ been released on DVD?

[–] FoxBJK@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago

She's going to be appearing in a Disney+ show for Marvel. None of those have ever been released for purchase either (and probably never will be).

A bunch of things from Apple TV+ actually did get put on Blu-Ray, but they're British/European discs

[–] OwlBreeze@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Apparently, according to the article at least, she and her husband wanted to watch ~~The Sopranos~~ Top Chef season 20, they couldn't figure out how to get Hulu+Live to work, so they ended up buying the Sopranos on iTunes.

But I'm pretty sure The Sopranos had a physical release.

[–] PenguinTD@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

For a brief time I used Netflix, I was not impressed with the fluctuations of encoding/streaming quality.(yep, I know it's early days.) Fast forward to this year, I visited my friend's place to have a get together, one pick something to watch and yet with gigabit fibre internet it still looks shit and pixelated until it "catches up".

I'd buy downloads instead cause I can zoom around the show without worrying the quality.

[–] Screak42@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

„they” could have “solved” the necessity for owning a pirate hat. but they fucked up too many times.

even if you’re ok with just streaming and owning nothing for your money… you need like 6 subscriptions to listen and watch the stuff you want. I’m not willing nor able to spend hundreds for nothing. I used that money to purchase a large hard drive and some cool tshirts from my favorite bands.

greed is an ugly removed and I am wearing yet again my trusty old pirate hat.

[–] whofearsthenight@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Got tired of trying to figure out what service to watch a show on this week. Back to sailing the 7 seas…

[–] excel@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

That’s what justwatch.com is for

[–] GeekFTW@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gave up on Netflix a good 10 years ago when they first started quiet rumours about stopping people from accessing other countries catalogues. Immediately spun up an install of Plex and today am sitting on 30+TB of everything-I-ever-wanna-have and won't be going back. Only access to any paid streaming service I have is D+ via a friends account, and I've used it 4x in 2 years lol.

[–] Skiptrace@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What level of quality do you store your content at? 1080p? 4K?

I want to build my own catalog of Movies also, but I'm afraid of not getting enough Storage for 4K because it costs so much. I mean, sure, I can get 4TB HDDs for 59.99, but how much 4K Content is that?

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd guesstimate something like 100 movies. 4k Movies can be massive depending on the bitrate, HDR, etc...

My smaller 4k files are ~20GB and my biggest ones are 87GB(3 hour movie, high bitrate)...

Seems that "typical" is closer to 40... so 100 movies is probably about right.

[–] Skiptrace@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

100 movies per 4TB? If that's true, that's pretty reasonable! Id probably get 4 drives and do 3+1 Parity

That's my guess... I have majority 1080p content, with a sprinkling of 4k stuff. I'm at 27TB for 6062 movies. 160 of which are 4k at varying bitrates.

[–] variants_of_concern@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I store almost everything but my few favorite movies in 1080p. but I also let friends request content and I have automatic lists setup to add new stuff as it comes out so I try not to keep 4k, plus watching 4k outside of the house can be stressful on the server so 1080p is good for me, I have about 60tb of 1080p shows movies and youtube series

[–] Skiptrace@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you see a major quality difference watching 1080p on a 4K display? And have you tried looking at Streamed 4K vs Local 1080p to see if the difference in quality is there?

[–] variants_of_concern@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

for me 1080p is fine, I dont have that big of a tv, my concern is just storage space and my laziness. If I cared a bit more I would probably setup a second instance of Radarr to do 4k for my personal viewing, or if I didnt share my library with my family and friends. With 4k comes other issues you normally dont see when streaming since streaming services transcode down the move the bit rate is a lot lower and you dont see any issues, but when streaming locally the bit rate can go well over 100mbit and most tv's dont have over 100mbit connection, so you need something like an nvidia shield or xbox to not have stuttering, but it does look really nice seeing clear blacks instead of the blocks you get when watching something from like prime video. its comparable to playing the bluray if you have the right setup and file.

I prefer to do 1080p mainly because I share my library with friends and family and let them request whatever they want, their requests are automatically approved and pulled so my storage space is important, for example someone requested the office, thats like 560gb right there, but I really liked the show chernobyl so I pulled that at 4k and its only 5 episodes and thats already 140gb

[–] realcaseyrollins@kbin.projectsegfau.lt 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you download it and crack the DRM you own that file, at least

[–] aksdb@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Which in some jurisdictions is also illegal. So I might as well skip the "payment" part then.

[–] interolivary@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are there good DRM removal tools for iTunes? Googling for it gives the expected result, ie. pages and pages of scammy bullshit that I really don't have the energy to sort through

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

A good DRM removal tool would be to purchase the media wherever you like to feel morally good. After that you torrent the media so you can actually own a copy.

[–] RedMarsRepublic@vlemmy.net 32 points 1 year ago

I can't believe someone considers this news

[–] robotrash@lemmy.one 13 points 1 year ago

When you're a millionaire+ it's certainly a lot easier to say "eh, guess I'll just buy everything I ever want to watch outright." This hardly seems like news imo.

[–] HawkMan@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Oh no!.. In other news...

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just want to say, fuck the shift to Max. Ignoring that making me download a new app for no reason for the same thing with basically the same UI is bullshit, especially for the worst rebrand of all time, the new version of the app doesn't work and crashes constantly.

All to add a bunch of absolute dogshit content a five year old should be embarrassed to host on their personal YouTube channel. HBO was my single constant for multiple years, and I cancelled. On the plus side they put me in a survey on the switch I got to comment a lot on.

[–] BrainisfineIthink@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's really REALLY annoying is that the new version of the app has ALL The same bugs HBO max had when it launched. The audio desync when skipping intros, the timeouts on resuming paused content, the out of sync subtitles, the glitchy UI. It's like they just reskinned the 1.0 launch of the old app from four years ago and called it a day.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I have it giving me some generic "please try again" error almost every time it does autoplay. The audio will keep going all night on my HomePod with the error up, too. I'm just done. I'm not wading through the trash content and just as bad software for them to take away the good HBO shows.

[–] 00@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

She should get a VPN and a pirate hat

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Wow this is some great and exciting technology on display!

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

iTunes isn't much different from any of the "streamers". They still license media to you while reserving the right to withdraw it from you at any time, and stream it to you on-demand. The only thing that's different is the pricing model.

To be fair, it's the only platform that lets you download the media AFAIK, and you can use ViWizard to remove DRM from the files once you've downloaded them.

[–] joebobdobbs@compuverse.uk 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The article mentions that Plaza doesn’t like streaming services because she can’t figure them out. It has nothing to do with ideology.

[–] Skiptrace@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

How tf do you not understand how to navigate a Streaming Service?

[–] miracleorange@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago
[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Wow this is some great and exciting technology on display!

[–] dolle@feddit.dk 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was a bit unclear for me, but does this article say that HBO Max will become merged with Discovery+? I really hope that's not true. I have HBO because of the relatively high quality, and I would be willing to pay more just to keep the braindead shit from Discovery from polluting the catalog.

[–] itmightbethew@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

Remember when Discovery was an oasis of informative content in a desert of reality TV? I wonder how long before curiosity stream goes the same way

[–] fruitywelsh@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I remember asking years ago "how can I watch movies ethically, both supporting FOSS formats, owning my copy of the content, and paying the creators for their work?" I think the answer has gotten even more elusive now than ever.

[–] DeathWearsANecktie@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I buy my films and TV shows from.. wait no I don't

Raw files and/or physical copies > anything else

I like to buy stuff from iTunes and remove the DRM if I can't get a physical copy

[–] Diana@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Indeed, iTunes is even more powerful than some streaming platforms. But iTunes music is also protected by DRM like other videos. I recommend you to take a look at these five best apple music drm removal tools.

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