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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 484 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

Headline is kind of funny, but I wanted to know what he shot at

In body cam footage shared across social media, the officer was seen jumping to the ground and shouted “shots fired” after the acorn strikes the roof of his car. He then turned and emptied every bullet from his gun, each aimed squarely at his squad car.

Funny again...

While Hernandez fired on the car, Marquis Jackson, who was accused of stealing his girlfriend’s car, was in the back of the police cruiser. Officers had searched, handcuffed and loaded the accused into the back of the police car and, despite being cuffed, it was Jackson that the officer thought was shooting at him.

Nope, he was trying to kill someone handcuffed in the back of his squad car and had already been searched for weapons.

Cop should at least be facing reckless endangerment, if not attempted murder.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 258 points 8 months ago (4 children)

He also yelled "I'm hit" while unloading on his own vehicle.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 262 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Same as when they think they're doing on fentanyl...

After hearing the sound of the acorn, the deputy reported that he also felt a “tingliness” all along the side of his body. He then said his “legs just give out” and he fell to the ground, assuming that he had been seriously injured by something.

Because of this, the video also showed Hernandez complaining about feeling “weird” and shouting to his colleague that he’s been hit. It’s all very dramatic.

Cops are constantly terrified because of their training, so they panic and mistake a panic attack for something else.

Being a cop sucks so much (because of their own leadership and culture) that good qualified people do t want to be a cop. So we end up with these fragile snowflakes that shouldn't be allowed to carry at all. Let alone be a cop

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 101 points 8 months ago (22 children)

These idiots are so convinced that merely touching fentanyl will make them collapse that it actually happens to them.

If fentanyl was that strong, people would buy one bag and it would last for like a year.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 50 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Just so we're clear, those cops were tested after that ordeal and had absolutely zero fentanyl in their system.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 73 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Even if he wasn't trying to kill Marquis Jackson, he clearly didn't care if he killed him.

[–] quirzle@kbin.social 39 points 8 months ago (5 children)

You don't mag dump like that if you don't care. He very much was trying to kill him.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago (4 children)

You do if you're an idiot and a coward.

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[–] Beldarofremulak@lemmy.world 58 points 8 months ago (9 children)

I deal with PTSD vets every day so I understand the snap buuuuut.... No one else gets to get away with a slap on the wrist because of their mental illness so fuckem

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 55 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Yeah. The "having PTSD" part isn't what should be punished, it's the "and yet still carrying a gun while putting yourself in a position to have your PTSD triggered like this" part that's egregious.

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[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Cop should at least be facing reckless endangerment, if not attempted murder.

The review board found his conduct was not reasonable; so, it'll be up to the prosecutor (which I'm sure in FL is an office eager to go after cops). The other officer, who began shooting after the officer wearing the bodycam in the OP began shooting, was found to have acted reasonably.

Essentially, you can't think an acorn is a bullet and get away with shooting at a detained and secured civilian. But, if another officer on scene thinks, even unreasonably so, that an acorn is a bullet and starts shooting at a detained and secured civilian, you can too. If this doesn't make a lot of sense to you, take that as reassurance that your critical thinking remains, at least partially, intact.

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[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 165 points 8 months ago (15 children)

If a random loud bang from an acorn falling nearby is enough to get someone to behave like this, they really should not be walking around with a gun. This is completely insane and unhinged behavior.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 60 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

theres no reason for most officers to be lethally armed their entire shift.

they are trained the exact opposite; be afraid of everything and empty the clip. ask questions later.

this cop behaved as he was trained

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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 126 points 8 months ago (5 children)

And yet the most surprising thing about the story is that the bodycam footage was released, smh

[–] Crowfiend@lemmy.world 55 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Likely to protect the cop/department too, since he shot at his own car that already had a disarmed, detained suspect inside. He very nearly killed someone that was already a non-threat. If the body cam footage got out it might make people think their cops are negligent or improperly trained! /ghasp

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 104 points 8 months ago (12 children)

Our brave boys in blue, ladies and gentlemen.

There are 22 jobs in the U.S. statistically more dangerous than being a cop.

Cowards. So many of them are cowards.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 41 points 8 months ago (6 children)
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[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 41 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

And the leading cause of injury/fatality for police officers by far: vehicle accidents. Not being shot at.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 28 points 8 months ago

Also COVID for a couple of years there as they refused to wear masks in most cases.

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[–] Jakdracula@lemmy.world 90 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Obtaining a barber license means that you have completed a minimum of 1,250 hours of instruction in barbering education within a period of at least 9 months or completed 1,250 hours of training. It takes 1,250 to 2,000 hours to be a cosmologist. Police in Germany get 2.5 years of training, and in Finland, police education takes three years to complete. Police in the USA get 750 hours.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago (2 children)

USA intentionally dumbs down its people.

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[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 78 points 8 months ago (12 children)

Everyone, stop what you are doing and check your local police department for this guy.

During the course of the investigation into the shooting, deputy Herandez resigned from the force.

He is out there somewhere, getting scared and shooting at his own car.

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[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 76 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 82 points 8 months ago (13 children)

Top comment really nails it:

This is unironically the most embarrassing video I have seen in my entire life. I am not exaggerating at all. I would kill myself if there were footage of me acting like this. Dude gets scared by an acorn, does a Max-Payne-backwards-dive, unloads 20 roads into his own car (luckily not murdering the unarmed guy in the back of it), does some horrid Arnold-Schwarzenegger impression while crawling over the floor bawling his eyes out, and then forces an armed stand-off with literally no one. Actually absolutely insane, the most unhinged behaviour I have ever had the pleasure to witness.

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[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 59 points 8 months ago

This story pairs nicely with the other one that's currently trending.

Florida Legislator Files Bill That Would Keep Killer Cops From Being Named And Shamed

This dipshit is what they want to protect so he can just go work in another district and kill someone else.

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 57 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

I’m sorry, this is fucked up and I shouldn’t be laughing, but you really can’t make this shit up

What’s more, in his body cam footage you can clearly see the acorn fall into frame and strike the roof of his car. When asked if this was the sound he heard, Hernandez had this to tell investigators:

“I’m not gonna say no, because I mean that’s, but what I, [10 second pause in speaking] what I heard [3 second pause in speaking] sounded almost like [12 second pause in speaking] what I heard sounded what I think would be louder than an acorn hitting the roof of the car, but there’s obviously an acorn hitting the roof of the car.”

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[–] ExLisper@linux.community 54 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Can we please stop pretending Twitter is a video hosting platform? It's not, the links never work. When you only include Twitter video in the article it's like not including the video at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVZbZyelg-c

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 54 points 8 months ago (11 children)

Headlines like this are often a stretch, if not outright BS. Read the story. The headline does not begin to do justice as to how fucked up this was.

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[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 51 points 8 months ago

What a very composed and calm individual that is perfectly suited for a job as a public servant.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 48 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Police aren't brave, they 're the biggest cowards in societies, and we let them kill without consequence... This should frighten you

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[–] TheNitroZeus@lemmy.world 48 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Fiona@feddit.de 45 points 8 months ago (6 children)

If US police is this incompetent, the only real solution is to take their guns away. It works in the UK.

And yes, there are more guns in general in the US, but that means that the police needs to be BETTER at deescalation than in the UK, not worse.

(Also: Obviously there are exceptions for specialized units in the UK, and the same would have to happen in the US, but your standard run-of-the-mill cop really doesn’t need more than pepper-spray and a stick.)

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 33 points 8 months ago (6 children)

How about we also give them actual training? You know, basic 4 year training like in Europe, to become basic police officer, additional training to become more, and not the "6 months and here is your gun" as they do in the US?

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[–] Dra@lemmy.zip 44 points 8 months ago (13 children)
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[–] trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.com 43 points 8 months ago (37 children)

Unpopular opinion: Cop pay and training is inadequate. If you want professional cops, you need to hire professional people and train them professionally. The only people that apply to become officers are morons and the power hungry. People with integrity don't apply because the money is shit.

Any job that trades money for fraternity is a job that's garbage. And boy oh boy are cop houses frats.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 47 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I'm a combat veteran and the fact that cops aren't held to half the standards I was drives me nuts.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 42 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Was the dude they had the in the back of the car hit? They just casually mention they had a guy in the back of the car and that's who they were shooting at but then just never bring him up again.

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago (6 children)
[–] DaleGribble88@programming.dev 26 points 8 months ago (5 children)

That is incredibly fortunate and I am happy they are unhurt. However, that isn't really a better situation imo. That means that the cop fired multiple shots and never managed to hit their target. That puts them in danger if they ever are in a fire fight, and dangerous for everyone nearby who isn't who they are trying to shoot.

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[–] Cornpop@lemmy.world 40 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If you’re that scared you have no business being a cop. What a fucking idiot thinks he got shot too.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago (4 children)

This is what happens when you spend your life fantasizing about how you're a hero under constant attack.

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[–] LaFinlandia@sopuli.xyz 38 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The only thing more dangerous than a Florida man is a Florida cop.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 37 points 8 months ago (2 children)

empties one full magazine on the car, not a single hit Would you like to enlist in the imperial army?

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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 37 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Every story such as this contains at least one police lie. Even this one.

In his statement, Sheriff Aden said that the department was “limited in further response due to pending litigation.” Motherboard could not find court records related to the incident online and reached out to the Okaloosa County Courthouse, which confirmed it did not have any recent records related to either party. Motherboard reached out to the Okaloosa County Sheriff's Office for clarification but has not received a response.

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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 36 points 8 months ago

Reminder that Uvalde is only the most famous example of cops being cowards.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Florida Man has nothing on Florida Squirrel. This brave officer barely escaped a brazen assassination attempt by the infamous terrorists, Squirrels Anonymous!

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[–] CultHero@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago (16 children)

I am loathe to use the word retarded... but I just have no other words to describe this.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 33 points 8 months ago (10 children)

This is what happens if way undertrained people are hired for police work. People who think with their guns.

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[–] zerog_bandit@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That cop was way to squirrelly for the job.

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