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[–] JoMomma@lemm.ee 60 points 9 months ago (1 children)

4% of people are completely uncultured and don't realize "You can literally talk to animals!"

[–] Wodge@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (3 children)

You can do other things with animals too.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 9 months ago

I can BE ONE!

[–] ramius345@sh.itjust.works 14 points 9 months ago

Lick that spider.

[–] seang96@spgrn.com 3 points 9 months ago

I like to kick em and take their corpse.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 48 points 9 months ago (11 children)

It deserves it. It's not a perfect game, but it's a hell of a good one and it is incredibly satisfying to play.

My biggest gripe is that save scumming often feels absolutely necessary because you'll unknowingly get yourself into situations that you just can't push through without reloading or your whole party dying.

A good DM knows that games are most fun when the party barely scrapes by, but doesn't die until the end game. If they could have implemented some sort of dynamic difficulty that adjusted background rolls and enemy decisions to keep the player pushing forward, it would have felt much more satisfying.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think some things could be fixed by having party members able to butt into conversations.

Like Asto turning on the charm for a charisma check, or have Karlach threaten to cut somebody's plums off if they don't let us in.

For a party based game with so many cutscenes, you feel weirdly on your own as soon as you start one.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

I think that's one of the biggest complaints people have had of the dialogue system. It's really annoying to have a person in your party who could nail the conversations, but not be able to use them.

Especially when you walk into a conversation with a person specifically interested in one of your party members, but that specific member just has to stand there silent.

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 12 points 9 months ago

Dynamic difficulty feels cheap to me, and I imagine it does for the developers too, which is why they give you nearly perfect information in a way that a DM probably never would. When I played the RE2 remake, the one mod I wanted was one that would turn off dynamic difficulty; that mod would eventually exist, but after I had long since finished the game. At the time, there was little else besides mods that enhanced Claire's wet t-shirt physics.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 9 months ago

It’s as close to a perfect game as we’re getting nowadays.

[–] abracaDavid@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

It definitely has plenty of flaws, but the good things heavily outweigh the bad.

I mean just the shear scope of that game is crazy. It's very ambitious .There are so many dialog options. I've tried to explore as much as I can in my first playthrough but I can tell there's a lot of content that I've missed.

Can't wait to do a second run.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I agree about the same scrumming. Particularly in the beginning when I had low level characters, I would think I was being clever and bypass some section only to accidentally wander into a a bunch of hostiles that far outnumbered my group and repeatedly get massacred.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

As much as I agree with your opinion on save scumming, truth is all of the Infinity Engine games were like this as well. Even if you're a seasoned D&D player, it's all too easy to get completely wiped in the dungeon at the beginning of BG2 to an imp because barely any of your party's attack rolls are successful at Lvl 1.

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[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

That's why you play in honor mode :p

All jokes aside, I had the most blast playing the game when going in blind on a Dark Urge playthru with honor mode.

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[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago (9 children)

Don't tell the forums that, they're convinced it's an unplayable woke government ops pathetic remake zoophilia kissing simulator insult to d&d. It's got so many bugs you can't play it on anything short of a super computer, and is targeting children with it's addicting gameplay and low system requirements.

Every day there's a new 3 page screed expanding each of the above adjectives into paragraphs of garbage. Yet somehow most of the authors don't own the game, and it's has a overwhelmingly positive rating...

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Act 3 is pretty janky at times and they seriously need to give you vertical camera controls (xcom figured this out like 15 years ago!) but it’s still a fantastic game. Lots of valid critiques, but still a great game

[–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Like the tactical view/o? Or just move up and down? Because that's annoying sometimes.

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[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 11 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Don’t tell the forums that, they’re convinced it’s an unplayable woke government ops

This is far too many Steam forums lately, and I don't know why or what hurt these people. If you ask the Steam forums, Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League failed because it went woke and hired some diversity consultancy firm that only these people know the name of and hold up as the antichrist.

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[–] explodicle@local106.com 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It did have a "literally unplayable" save deletion bug on Xbox until recently. I just waited for them to fix it before spending my money.

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (8 children)

I played 100+ hours on Xbox before that was patched and never had a problem so "literally unplayable" is really a bit much.

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[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago

I mean, my partner and I actually did stop our play through because it was too buggy and it was effecting our enjoyment. Been meaning to get back to it after all the patches, but like... It was pretty buggy around launch by my standards.

[–] stoned_ape@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I love BG3 as a video game, but I feel like Hasbro is going to take a lot of the ideas and try their best to translate them into the trrpg space and shittify both on the way through.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

And it's always people that have private profiles.
If you're profile is private on steam you're automatically disregarded.

[–] dsemy@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

TBH it's really not that surprising, just classic gatekeeping - cRPGs were very niche for a long time and those people dislike the fact many new people are suddenly interested in them because of this game.

I kinda get it in a way, I think some other games in the genre deserve this success more, but at the end of the day it's still better than most of the shit released lately.

[–] ghashul@feddit.dk 2 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Got any examples? I've been a crpg fan since my teens, but there's so many I haven't tried. Any game that deserve success more than bg3 is a game I should probably give a shot!

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Just gonna hang back for that first big price drop.

[–] fan0m@kbin.social 28 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Honestly it's worth it at full price.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Agreed. This is one of those situations where I actually want to vote with my wallet if I can. They made a stellar game, it want them to make a shitload of money. That's the only way we're going to get another game of BG3 quality.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 9 months ago

This is one of those situations where I actually want to vote with my wallet if I can.

I pirated this game, and after about 4 hours I bought it at full price for that exact reason.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's worth it full price. On GOG. Play it with a 4 player party on one copy. Then buy more copies once there is a sale / once you want to support the devs.

[–] Fish@midwest.social 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why do you need so many copies?

[–] Dunstabzugshaubitze@feddit.de 3 points 9 months ago

multi-player. BG3 allows you to play the entire game with up to 4 people.

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Definitely BG3 earns the rare title of 'a complete game' and presents a great experience.

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's not that rare. You just have to expand your horizons beyond the AAA games with the most marketing.

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

That's a fair counter. Indie games definitely hit above their weight class more often. But for a project of this scale it's refreshing.

[–] SandLight@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Probably, but that's a lot of money that I don't really have to spend.

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This really is one of those games that’s worth it at full price. Save waiting on a sale for the half-finished games that shouldn’t be priced as high as they are.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I mean, I'm sure it is. It sounds like people like it.

But bruh. I'm just getting through Witcher three in my back catalogue.

Like it can wait in the steam store for me to play it instead of waiting in my steam library for me to play it

[–] MoistBalls@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I still have to find the time to complete this game one day.

[–] IdiosyncraticIdiot@sh.itjust.works 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I think the biggest draw toward BG3 is the replay-ability!

I think I had 200+ hr on my first play through, but I made decisions, that I won't say for spoiler reasons, that cut off multiple entire story lines that I have read are another ~80hrs + of playtime! Super cool, in my opinion.

The players actions CHANGE the world, many games have strived for this, although few have achieved. BG3 achieved!

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago

I really want to do a durge run, but haven’t yet because I want to play BG1 first so it’ll hit more.

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

I had completely discounted ever playing a story-driven game like an RPG in early access. And now I've played BG3, and I know there's enough systemic nonsense that I'll be lined up for day 1 of their early access for their next game.

[–] wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I loved Divinity:OS/2 and figured if BG3 was even half as good, it would be worth the money. Waited until it was out of Early Access, then bought it. Worth every euro. And the soundtrack is a masterpiece! Not that I expected any different.

[–] cafuneandchill@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Played it a little bit (up to the goblin fort part), was pretty neat. Fights take a long ass time to resolve, but you can get pretty creative with them.

Now, this might be a personal thing, but the game somehow doesn't really have that fantasy feel? It's like playing Mass Effect with a fantasy paint coating over it, rather than playing an actual fantasy game. I hope I'm making sense here, lol. From my point of view, a work of fiction with a good fantasy atmosphere is all about that personal tranquil, solemn journey rather than bombastic adventures, romance or whatever. It's the kind of mood that you get while listening to dungeon synth -- a genre directly inspired by classic fantasy. Lunacid is a good example of what I am talking about.

Another point of contention for me is the disk size of the game. Now that I have more of disk space available to me, I could give it another chance, though

[–] shrugal@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I always get the feeling that D&D's Forgotten Realms is a more goofy kind of fantasy, like everything you want is possible. It's about imagination and self-expression, rather than setting strict rules for how things work. Makes sense imo, they want it to be the world that you use to create your own stories for P&P games, so it should have many different facets and can't be too limiting.

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