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I was in the Army and I hated most aspects of it. But one thing I really liked was the uniform. Just waking up and putting on the BDUs and not having to think about what to wear was great. Also, it eliminates comparison between others. You don't have to worry if you're under-dressed or over-dressed cause you are wearing the same thing as everyone else.

It worked in Star Trek, right? Well, unless you were a redshirt.

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[–] Behaviorbabe@kbin.social 39 points 7 months ago

Yeah nice garbage opinion. Upvote!

[–] chillhelm@lemmy.world 37 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Luckily, you can just pick your uniform and wear it daily. It's pretty much what I did. For everyday wear I have like 3 different pants, 3 different sweaters and a bunch of T-Shirts that go with them. So while I personally am basically in uniform daily (and many people wear identical or near identical clothes every day) I'm strictly against society encouraging uniforms in any way shape or form.

For many people wearing a uniform is obligatory at their work (retail and gastronomy workers, construction and maintenance workers, facility staff at larger buildings or events, Any kind of service person that will be seen by the public (e.g bus drivers, cleaners,...). And that is even without counting people who have to follow a strict dress code at work to the point where it might as well be a uniform (white collar office work, e.g).
So overall I dare say a majority of people actually wear uniforms in their professional lives. And even if you aren't as liberal with your interpretation of "uniform" as I was in the paragraph above (where I considered a hard hat and a high vis vest as a uniform), it is still a significant portion of the population wearing uniforms regardless.

And in a professional context I can see a point to uniforms: They remove individuality and emphasize the belonging to a larger group/organization. This can be helpful in situations where cohesion (e.g construction work, policing, school uniforms etc...) or uniformity of standards (gastronomy, public services) are more important than individual competence/style.

However, in a private context, I object to any kind of uniforms being worn or even worse, any kind of societal encouragement (which always turns into pressure) to wear uniforms. Uniforms are by their nature a limitation on your most basic form of freedom of expression. History has shown that any society that encourages uniformity over individuality in a private context will sooner or later enforce not just clothing standards but other behavioral standards too, usually to the detriment of marginalized groups. (What I'm saying is, it is a short step from "You should wear this." to "You shouldn't wear this." and from there to "You should(n't) do this" and "You can't do this.")

There is rather to many societal norms around what is "correct" or "appropriate" clothing already and I think your phantasy about uniforms comes partially from that pressure. I'd rather a society where no one gives a fuck what you wear, than one that "encourages" dress codes. And uniforms are IMHO a step in the wrong direction.

[–] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 11 points 7 months ago

Exactly. There are times uniforms and dress codes are necessary, but they ansolutely shouldn't be universal.

There's nothing stopping OP from just picking a style and going with it - I do. The majority of my outfits follow the simple formula of cardigan/jacket and complimentary t-shirt, Jeans, trainers, and whatever underwear is in the top of the drawer. It works for the majority of contexts, and I can always tweak it to be smarter or more casual.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

When I had to go into an office for work I had three pairs of pants, exactly the same, and five collared shirts of different colors, a pair of shoes and a belt all dedicated to only being worn for work. Even kept then in a specific place in my closet segregated from non-work clothes. Getting dressed was fast and easy

[–] deelayman@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 months ago

Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes, and not rather a new wearer of clothes. -Henry David Thoreau


[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 30 points 7 months ago

Now this is a quality unpopular opinion post. You have somehow managed to succeed where all others fail.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I had to wear black clothing at my last job, doing that everyday for a decade was the most depressing shit ever.

Fuck uniforms, let me express myself. It's crazy to see people be what society wants them to be, but not me.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Were you in NWA or something?

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[–] DestroyerOfWorlds@sh.itjust.works 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

As long as I choose the uniform.
Monday: Cheerleader.
Tuesday: Policeman.
Wednesday: Astronaut.
Thursday: Catholic School Girl.
Friday: Priest.
Saturday: Hooters Waitress.
Sunday: NFL Linebacker.

[–] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago

Dress for the jobs you want, not the ones you have

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[–] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 13 points 7 months ago

Now that's an unpopular opinion. 10/10 for understanding the assignment!

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 13 points 7 months ago

I have duplicates of the same clothes and wear the same thing daily. Nobody is forcing you to choose what to wear, lol.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Bonus if it’s provided instead of purchased.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

I hate uniforms because I hate the concept of uniformity, especially in a social setting where uniformity is achieved through coercion or force. If you let them take your individuality, they've already won over half the battle.

[–] Tremble@sh.itjust.works 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

People already do wear uniforms in a way. Have you ever been to a school or university. Any gathering of young people. Heck, go to a senior center and many of the clothes the old folks are wearing are all the same. I’m thinking high waisted polyester pants my great grandad used to wear lol.

And that damn Lulu Lemon yoga pants craze everyone just had to have.

Humans feel a deep desire to fit in and conform to their cultural norms. I’ve also seen studies where people who wear new clothes are seen as more intelligent, more competent, more hard working, more beautiful, etc compared to people who wear old clothes.

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I must look like a fool! I wear the same old stuff every day.

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Upvote for unpopularity. I like the idea of not having to think about what to wear, but I don't really care about the under-dressed/over-dressed part. I'm in a work place that went from a professional dress code to a business-casual dress code and holy shit was that great, just not having to care about what I was wearing, other than no ripped jeans or whatever, it's just so nice. I sit at a desk all day, so nobody really ever sees what I'm wearing all day anyways, so whatever. Also:

  1. Just getting people to wear a fucking mask during a global pandemic was enough for some people to want to go to civil war, good luck telling them what shirt and pants to wear (or that they should wear any in the first place),
  2. I think even if uniforms were instituted, you'd still have members of society who would have to have something else. Politicians and/or military would get something else, just because. Then maybe you'd get other divisions getting added in, bosses at workplaces, religious folks, medical personnel, whatever, people will do anything to differentiate themselves from others, even if you try to start them out the same.

I feel like even in Star Trek, the different uniformed groups still probably talk shit about each other. Red shirts are obviously the big joke about being expendable, but then they probably still have informal green vs blue social groups popping up, the different departments are still going to be getting catty with each other over petty differences, even hundreds of years in the future. Then add in all these random fucking aliens from all over with way different standards, social taboos, and methods of communication, you'll have alot of pissed off humans onboard starships hating almost everyone else they work with.

[–] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Uniformity over individualism sounds so authoritarian and dystopian.

No one prevents you to buy the same 14 shirts and pants and wear them. No need to ever decide what to wear. You have the power to solve this by yourself.

I also don't think for example school uniforms are a good thing, as kids will find worse things to bully someone than their clothes. I got bullied and clothes hurt less, than something really hurting my self esteem, so no school uniform would've saved me there. But at least I could wear what I wanted instead of being forced to wear boring pants and shirts. Also often uniform can be a financial burden for poorer families if it's not paid by the school. Now, at work, I'm glad I don't need to iron a suit every day.

So kudos for posting a (to me) unpopular opinion.

[–] Raffster@kbin.social 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Fuck uniforms. I get your point but no one tells me what to wear. That sets my oppositional disorder off like nothing else, I can watch myself get riled up in real time at the mere thought, it's almost funny.
(good post though I must admint)

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 months ago

Clothing companies are telling you what to wear if you think about it. The illusion of choice is going to the mall, not knowing that most of your money spent is going to Cadillac Fairview.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 10 points 7 months ago

(upvote) Hey do you have any other stupid opinions?

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Actress Katherine Hepburn was famous for this. She had one outfit she wore all the time, and just kept replacing it when it wore out.

[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Also the Zuck and Steve Jobs

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 6 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Also Tobey Maguire, but for different reasons.

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[–] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Just don't give a fuck what other people think and you're golden.

[–] hasnt_seen_goonies@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The great thing is you can do this for yourself. Find a look you like and buy multiples of it. You can switch up colors if you want, or literally just wear the same thing. I know a few people who do this and they seem really happy doing it.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 points 7 months ago

I literally do this

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Self-expression has been bastardized by capitalism. Clothing isn't who you are. Your curated social media feed isn't who you are. Your passions, your wishes, your lust for life and seeing the world is who you are. Dwelling on what you're going to wear as a statement to the world is idiotic and a waste of time in the grand scheme of things.

[–] spoxzq@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Clothing isn’t who you are. Your curated social media feed isn’t who you are.

Tyler Durden, is that you?

Great points!

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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 8 points 7 months ago

I feel the same about working at home & pyjamas.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I also miss my uniform. But i miss the ACU, not BDUs. Too much starching, ironing, and boot polishing for the BDU. When we switched to the CCU and then the ACU i was so happy because it was like wearing pajamas all day every day and you also didnt have to shine your boots anymore.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Fuckin Americans with your uniforms that you don't have to fight with every goddamn day

[–] DefiantBidet@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

I worked at an agency that had one of the execs always wear black. Same thought process, it eliminates a thought process better spent used elsewhere - or so implied.

Reality is society tends to frown on automatons and when you have no personal style you come off as a robot.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I don't mind dress codes, I just don't like inconsistent dress codes.

Men: Must wear either shirt or polo tshirt. Round neck tshirts not allowed.

Women: dress code is... ehhhh... business casuals.

[–] MinorLaceration@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

I'm currently in the Army. I generally choose to wear my uniform even on occasions where we are able to wear civilians for the same reasons you mentioned. Life is much simpler that way.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Yeah, choice is horrible /s

[–] Nusm@yall.theatl.social 6 points 7 months ago

I think we should all wear the same exact clothes. Because it seems to be what happens eventually, anyway. Anytime you see a movie or a TV show where there’s people from the future or another planet, they’re all wearing the same outfit. I think the decision just gets made: “All right, everyone, from now on, it’s just gonna be the one-piece silver suit with the V stripe and the boots. That’s the outfit. We’re gonna be visiting other planets, we wanna look like a team here. The individuality thing is over.”

-- Jerry Seinfeld, I'm Telling You For The Last Time

[–] Bravebellows@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

The real nerds have known this for years; it's not always the look but themes and/or types: t-shirts, jeans, sneakers, done.

For me, I decide between lightweight or heavy t-short material depending on the daily temps, and a stretchy pair of pants with slip-in shoes.

So yes bring on the uniforms!

[–] orangeNgreen@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

I’m jealous of professions that can wear scrubs without judgment for that reason. Comfortable, and not too complicated.

[–] MiltownClowns@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

I own one pair of pants, 20 plain back t-shirts, and 100 pairs of black socks. Did I make my own uniform?

[–] lgmjon64@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

One of my favorite things about working in an OR is that I can just roll into work looking like a hobo and then they supply me with a pair of pajamas to change into for the day. It's great.

[–] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Mythbusters Jamie made it work.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Agreed. There's a reason that I just buy the same clothes in bulk and wear the same thing over and over again. Black/grey cargo pants, black/grey undershirt, black/grey overshirt, done. If I'm feeling spicy I'll change it up to use more olive green for stuff like the belt.

[–] denast@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

Surprising, but I share a very similar opinion. I went to a boarding school and we had a very specific two sets of uniform there. I really enjoyed the fact that I don't need to think what to wear, just to make sure that my clothing is clean and not wrinkled.

Wouldn't want to force others to give up their expressionism, but I'd love to be able to wear same uniform daily without others thinking I'm a moron.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

I'm surprised so many are against this. It's a good idea for his reasons but everyone's mind immediately snaps to the shitty forced conditions of other places.

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

As long as that uniform is a pair of sweat pants and an oversized cotton t-shirt, I'm down.

[–] rustydomino@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Based on replies to this post it’s a legit unpopular opinion lol. I agree with you but for different reasons maybe. “Expressing” one’s self via fashion choices is pretty environmentally damaging as practiced in most modern westernized societies, especially practices like fast fashion. I think there are lots of ways to express oneself without having to a constantly changing wardrobe. Of course reducing wardrobe in and of itself will not save the environment but it’s one step among many.

[–] assplode@kbin.social 4 points 7 months ago

Agreed! I get uniforms from work. It's great.

I don't have to buy work clothes. I don't have to launder them (work does). I don't have to think about what I'm going to wear.

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Go for it. My grandfather wore a green mechanic’s uniform nearly every day of his life.

[–] raynethackery@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Black pants and green polo shirt. That's my uniform.

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