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[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 95 points 8 months ago (10 children)

It's been advertised forever. If there was a case, Nintendo lawsuit-happy lawyers would have taken them down by now. It was never a secret their design shared aesthetic with Pokemon.

[–] Maven@lemmy.sdf.org 41 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Reading the article explains that it's not that their aesthetic is shared, it's that some of the models are extremely similar to S/V models, beyond the likelihood of coincidence, and Nintendo plans to investigate if it's coincidence or actual asset theft.

[–] Dalek_Thal@aussie.zone 21 points 8 months ago (4 children)

That was disproven several times - the guy who claimed it even admitted he'd altered Palworld's assets to show that supposed 'similarity'

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[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

Reading the linked article? You are asking the impossible.

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[–] ItsAFake@lemmus.org 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, if one of the most litigious gaming companies out there hasn't filed a suit against them, then I think they might be ok, unless they can somehow prove parts of assets were used.

The closest Nintendo has gotten to legal stuff was against a modder for Palworld who used Pokemon and put the mod behind a paywall and I'm pretty sure if they didn't charge they might have been left alone maybe.

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 13 points 8 months ago

Nintendo is incapable of leaving anything alone.

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[–] Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.de 81 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If Nintendo would invest the money they pump in DMCA takedowns and lawyers in their games instead,
then perhaps they would have a chance to make something equally good as Palworld.

[–] pycorax@lemmy.world 49 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nintendo does, GameFreak and The Pokemon Company on the other hand..

[–] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 43 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I submit Nintendo's online service as evidence that, that is not true in the least bit. MK8, Smash, Splatoon 3, all of them have atrocious online. Pokemon Unite using Tencent's online services runs circles around anything Nintendo has offered with online being a major factor and that's on same hardware.

Nintendo has their IP and they take extremely good care of it. No argument there. But holy shit is Nintendo's online service absolute trash. I will always have something Nintendo because I must always have my Animal Crossing, but holy fuck, let's not kid ourselves about Nintendo's online stuff. Anything that's using Nintendo's servers for match making or their network stack for connectivity is just garbage.

I will always love a good Mario, Pikmin, or Animal Crossing but Nintendo clearly isn't investing a single cent into online anything. And that is just my 2¢.

[–] pycorax@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

I agree with you on that but it's a bit inaccurate to say them not pumping money into their games is not true in the least bit. It's just their online services which are a disaster. Most of their games are still pretty damn great and it shows.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 47 points 8 months ago

People whit knighting for Nintendo against a company that gave them an enjoyably Pokemon game.

[–] Bonesy91@lemmy.world 45 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fuck game freak. Like they cant even fix there own games and shit.

[–] MammyWhammy@lemmy.ml 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Right!? Palworld is just the game players have been begging for for a decade.

[–] Spaceinv8er@sh.itjust.works 8 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I wouldn't go that far.

I can see why people who were into Ark, Valheim, Fortnite, Minecraft; however, it's just like any other survival builder game. It just has Pokemon in it. I don't see the hype.

[–] Raz@lemm.ee 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It just has Pokemon in it.

That's the point!

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[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 42 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The statement sounds like PR speak for, please stop telling us about palworld, we've heard already.

I'm sure they have been inundated by panicked investors contacting them after reading the words, "pokemon with guns" in the news. The statement should reassure them that the company takes defending their IP seriously.

The game's been out long enough for them to write a cease and desist if they wanted to get litigious.

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Pretty much yeah. Mostly just "Yes, we know." If they had any real chance of killing it off, they'd have done so before the game even launched. They'll make a big show of looking into it, then grumpily admit there wasn't technically any wrongdoing and, while they don't support Palworld, they can't actually stop it.

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[–] mrfriki@lemmy.world 39 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Well, Palworld developer now have $200 million more than a week ago so now they can afford lawyers as good as the Pokémon company.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

It takes weeks until they see any of that Steam money from a game they just released in early access. Though a bank might likely give them a hefty loan now for a proper defense. But let‘s not pretend Japan copyright and trademark laws are lenient or reasonable and Nintendo is basically a national treasure. If Pocketpair was based in any other country it would be different but here we really do not know how it could go.

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[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago (16 children)

At this point it would be better for nintendo to buy palworld from the delveloper and make pokemon multiversal with palworld existing in an alternate universe.

That way they could cash in on the massive success, separate it from their actual pokemon IP all whilst appeasing fans of palworld by keeping the game alive.

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 43 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You seem to think they would put any value in appeasing fans of Palworld. They're not even interested in appeasing their own fans. If they could publicly behead Palworld for all it's fans to see they'd do it just to send a message.

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[–] shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago

Fuck the pokemon company

[–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

I wish that consumers would act as hostile to the IP of this company and its parent as it acts towards other companies.

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We keep thinking about such IP lawsuits as "all or nothing" affairs because YouTube with their strike system and similar systems by other companies make it seem that way. Yet that's not the case.

In this instance, Game Freak and Nintendo probably cannot go after palworld as a whole but battle around and then have them change singular Pal designs. That's a super expensive thing to do and takes ages. So they'll only do that if they risk loosing the claim to some brand ownership or other.

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (9 children)

Which would be fine, frankly. With all the money Palworld got, they can aford to redesign some creatures. The number of them that actually look like imitations in practice is much smaller than critics make it to be.

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[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 11 points 8 months ago

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[–] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 11 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Do I need to play it now or never? I have a feeling this FOMO is driving some of their current engagement.

[–] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

I think its a good game that you play with friends. It has a lot of minecraft (get resources and build shit) mechanics, so it is better played with others. I dont think you must play it now. Even if a lot of playes stop playing long the line, you can still enjoy the game with friends.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 7 points 8 months ago (5 children)

It's like when Rust first came out but with less dong. Think I'll pass.

[–] DarylDutch@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

A person of principles. I like it.

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[–] Sparky@feddit.de 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I decided that I will check it out when it's fully released (if/whenever that happened).

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[–] rubikcuber@feddit.uk 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] clearedtoland@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

Your DMCA notice is in the mail, buddy!

[–] Shelbyeileen@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Per copyright law in the United States, the designs must be 15% different to create one's own artistic copyright. They're several that are close, but 15% isn't that much. Obviously Nintendo isn't a US company, but it'll be interesting to set how this goes

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How the fuck do you even define a percentage point of difference for a creature's design ?

[–] yuriy@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

They do that mario party game where you trace the outline

[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Pretty sure this is a common myth. I'm curious if anyone has a source on this.

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