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[โ€“] Treczoks@lemmy.world 219 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I once asked my nephew about this - he worked in a hotel back then. Yes, indeed, they clean toilet brushes in a dishwasher.

But it is a separate one that is only for toilet brushes and brush holders, nothing else.

[โ€“] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 49 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I would completely agree with this and do it like this. Why? Saves time to say the least.

But, using the same one as for dishes? No way. Separate one, marked and all that? Makes perfect sense ๐Ÿ‘.

[โ€“] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 35 points 9 months ago (7 children)

IF your dishwasher is working properly then you ought to be able to put your poop knife, dinner dishes AND toilet brushes in and everything comes out sanitary.

Donโ€™t ask why there is peanut butter left on the knife. Youโ€™ll be ok.

[โ€“] Shou@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago (5 children)

This isn't true. A generic dishwasher for at home is not up for the task. Even the stuff they use in restaurants aren't up for the task. And they already wash with boiling water. Despite this, there are always leftovers. I had the task of cleaning these things at a maccy Ds. Found pink mold that thrived in coffee grounds to survive the dishwaser perfectly. Like the pink goo from the teletubbies.

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[โ€“] Delphia@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago (10 children)

I had an old dishwasher I used as an improvised parts washer when fixing up cars.

I used a ratchet strap to keep the door closed because the latch was busted, but it still heated the water and sprayed it just fine.

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[โ€“] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 171 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I bet they wash the poop knife in there too

[โ€“] jaybone@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I was hoping this one would stay on the other site.

[โ€“] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago (4 children)
[โ€“] Vespair@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago

For so long as the world continues to be a giant turd, the Poop Knife will be needed

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[โ€“] nifty@lemmy.world 138 points 9 months ago (10 children)

Wow, you can never tell with people. Go to someoneโ€™s house, and maybe theyโ€™re secret toilet-brush-in-dishwasher people. And there you are, innocently using their dishes.

[โ€“] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 59 points 9 months ago (1 children)

For situations like this, I suggest blissful ignorance.

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[โ€“] TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world 74 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Yikes. I would never eat there again!

Logically, the heat used for drying should kill any germs. But why risk it.

I rinse mine in the toilet bowl when it has bleach based toilet cleaner in it. That alone keeps them pretty clean.

[โ€“] MyDearWatson616@lemmy.world 62 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I do that with my dishes too

[โ€“] victorz@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago (4 children)

And there's the full-circle joke. Bravo. ๐Ÿ‘Œ

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[โ€“] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 58 points 9 months ago (11 children)

Thereโ€™s a really good short form podcast by a couple food scientists in the USA and they covered this one saying not risky. https://www.riskyornot.co/episodes/548-cleaning-the-toilet-brushes-in-the-dishwasher-top-rack

[โ€“] GBU_28@lemm.ee 14 points 9 months ago (16 children)

Even if true, what if someone said they shit on their plates, throw the shit in the toilet, them dishwasher the plates.

Would you conceptually still be ok eating off that plate? Even if you knew for fact it had gone through the machine?

[โ€“] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Yes. I would be happy to eat off a clean plate that once had shit on it.

[โ€“] GBU_28@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago

Truly we live in a society

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[โ€“] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 39 points 9 months ago (9 children)

I mean logically the kind of shit that grows on your dishes isn't much better for you than the literal shit that a toilet brush would scrub out of your toilet bowl. They both contain a lot of the same bacteria, you wouldn't be much better off licking an old used plate that has been sitting in a moist environment for a few days before you put the dishwasher on than you would be from licking a toilet brush. Well made dishwashers are designed to vigorously wash and, with the right settings and detergent, sanitize everything inside them so that they are safe to eat off of. Heck the machines they use to sanitize surgical equipment are essentially fancy dishwashers. But emotionally I couldn't do it. Even if I used the best dishwasher known to man and rewashed everything multiple times, I just wouldn't be able to get over that mental hurdle.

[โ€“] mako@lemmy.today 31 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (12 children)

I mean logically the kind of shit that grows on your dishes isn't much better for you than the literal shit that a toilet brush would scrub out of your toilet bowl.

First, what the fuck is growing on your dishes that you believe is "logically" equivalent to eating human shit? Second, this isn't a logic problem or a place for opinion. All the work was already done for you, just waiting for you to look it up instead of giving your opinion on bacteria.

Human shit also doesn't only contain bacteria. There's an estimated 100 million - 1 billion virus per gram of wet shit inside of us. Fungi are estimated at up to a million microorganisms per gram of wet shit and there's still around 100 billion bacteria per gram of wet shit. Let's not forget parasites like cryptosporidium which your body purges in shit.

Meanwhile either giving your dishes a cursory rinse or not allowing them to sit covered in food for days on end would minimize bacterial or fungal growth on your dishes.

This is a reminder for everyone: your opinion on facts that you can't be bothered to type in a search box are less than worthless. They're disinformation and in some cases, like telling people that eating shit is no more harmful that licking a plate, can cause harm.

Just say no to opinions on what facts may or may not be. Cite your sources.

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[โ€“] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 13 points 9 months ago (14 children)

But emotionally I couldn't do it. Even if I used the best dishwasher known to man and rewashed everything multiple times, I just wouldn't be able to get over that mental hurdle.

I know, right? If nothing else it just feels wrong...

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[โ€“] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 34 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Bottom shelf usually gets a more aggressive wash. I think these are better suited for bottom shelf.

[โ€“] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago (9 children)

Closer to the heat element though, so a lot of plastics are top rack only

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[โ€“] Aceticon@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago (5 children)

You have to consider only two things really:

  • Maybe, just maybe, something which was designed to kill the bacteria and remove the residue of things that came in contact with fresh or at most rotten food, is also totally effective at doing the same for things that came in contact with fecal mater and with toiled cleaning chemicals. Or maybe not.
  • Do you for a toilet brush need the level of cleaniness achieved by a dishwasher, and if not are there other reasonably simple methods to achieve the required level of cleaniness for it?

In the absence of actual scientific studies that provided an answer for the "is a household dishwater entirelly effective for fecal mater and toilet cleaning chemicals contamination" with a high degree of certainty, the consideration on whether to do this or not boils down to: "Is a dishwasher level of cleaniness for a toilet brush worth the risk that the dishwasher might not deal with fecal mater or toilet cleaning chemical contamination correctly?"

Personally, I don't think it is worth the risk.

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[โ€“] OpenStars@startrek.website 29 points 9 months ago (12 children)

Ew... like, all alone, with nothing else in the dishwasher at all, and a rinse cycle in-between that and other things that you plan to eat off of?

Even then, it seems inefficient to me. Also, why would those even need to be cleaned - do you plan on eating off of those?!? They get "cleaned" well enough by going into the toilet - no need for more?

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[โ€“] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The water sprays from the bottom so I think it would not matter whether they are on the top rack

[โ€“] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 17 points 9 months ago

It might even be worse, depending on the dishwasher's design.

[โ€“] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What the fuck is wrong with people.

how the fuck do you lack this much common sense? to put your fucking shitty toilet brush where you put your eating utensils?

[โ€“] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Maybe it's because people understand the germ theory of disease

[โ€“] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 11 points 9 months ago (5 children)

They're still not the same germs. No dishwasher goes over 90 or 95ยฐC (household ones). There is bacteria in feces that can survive that temperature. Not to mention parasite spores/eggs, some can easily withstand even 150ยฐC.

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[โ€“] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 9 months ago (6 children)

While we're at it....do people really put their dildos and pocket pussies in the dishwasher?

[โ€“] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 29 points 9 months ago

I wash them in the toilet ๐Ÿคท.

[โ€“] linearchaos@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Some things cost so much that regardless of what's on the label,hand wash only is the only reasonable answer.

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[โ€“] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Top rack only

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[โ€“] kemsat@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago

๐Ÿคฎ

[โ€“] TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

I mean... that's putting a lot of faith in the dishwasher to work properly every single time you do it. I don't know if I've got enough trust in the 1995 beige "landlord special" under my counter right now.

[โ€“] lazylion_ca@lemmynsfw.com 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I understand the ick factor, but dishwashers are built to sanitize. Its going to get hotter than anything you'd wanna stick your hands in.

The biggest worry would be the bristles clogging the drain.

Now ask her how she cleans her sex toys.

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[โ€“] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sounds gross but as long as it isn't with dishes and the dishwasher works right why would it be a problem? Soap is soap.

[โ€“] droans@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

I mean I have no reason to think it's bad... But it still doesn't feel comfortable.

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