The internet archive is becoming one of the most valuable sites on the web, specially to avoid paywalled corpo pages.
this post was submitted on 08 Jan 2024
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And people are abusing the fuck out of it by uploading tons of copyrighted movies. No one seems to be policing it either. I'm very worried that its days are numbered.
The Internet Archive has special status that gives it protections. What might kill it is the erosion of support for public libraries and such. The advancement of media companies' attempt to have absolute control over everything they release, by binding it into their own services.
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IRC was so much better than Discord. People are stupid.
I've lost a lot of my rose tint for discord, right around the arbitration clause thing, but I can't deny that it's convenient. Chat, streaming to friends, popping up a new server for whatever project or group, VC for playing games together. There's platforms that do all of these things better, but few that do all of them decently well.
Of course, it's a privacy nightmare and I stick to IRC for anything I wouldn't feel comfortable having linked to my identity, but I wouldn't call people stupid for using it.
Mostly I think its fine for all that.
But there's a special circle of hell for projects that rely on it for "documentation".
I get the temptation, I really do. But once you're taking money or have more than a couple people involved and semi-organized you really need at least a small wiki/git-hub landing page with the basics.
I know documentation is a separate skillset and a lot of work in its own right but projects can also stagnate and die because there isn't any.
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It's wild how a good deal of decentralization and FOSS focused communities insist on having Discord be their primary center for community. Worst one is privacy focused communities...
I can't say that bridging them to matrix was a foolproof endeavor though
Amen. Guess it's the curse of the unknowing youth. They grow up with this bullcrap. I hate discord so much. "oh buy nitro, have stupid stickers!" ugh.
I really really really miss IRC. What was wrong with it? Why did it die? Did we all die?
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IRC is only text chat, Discord does a ton of other things on top.
Personally I've been on the internet for the last.. 27 years or so? I've used ICQ, Teamspeak, Skype, IRC, Mumble, Discord, Teams, .. (Probably forgot a few).
I never really liked IRC, yes, it's private servers which is nice, yes you can be relatively anonymous, but the channels were always a mess. Either too many people spamming so you can't follow a single conversation, or for most channels you had 40 people idling and never responding, so it felt like a ghost town.
Just in my personal experience Discord works a lot better and is far more convenient. But yeah, not much privacy there obviously (though everything you said in IRC was often saved away by a bot, so either way whatever you said was out there).
CashewNut slaps Vlyn around a bit with a large trout
Sure, but when everybody's Discord content vanishes behind a paywall, or makes you watch a 2 minute advert to see a Wiki, what are you going to do?
Already I can't just browse the content on a Discord community without "joining" and all that bollocks.
Like I'm sure Discord is better than IRC, but it's not better than a collection of open standards so anyone can run a server.
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Except the lack of a decent mobile client that doesn't require you to self-host something to receive all messages
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My password is finally secure!
You can type it here and be completely safe! It hides it from us!
Wait, let me try *******
Does it work?
hunter2 is not a secure password.
Yeah, composing your password of all asterisks is probably not good.
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Wow! That's amazing, let me try ************* Did that show up for you?
1LikeChix&Dix
It did. Not a bad password but pretty easy to guess.
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But what should I do with this robe and wizard hat?
What the f*ck, I told you not to message me again.
It would have been awesome Easter egg to code in Lemmy that hunter2 would been always changed to stars.
The confusion it would have caused would have been legendary
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And he donned his robe and wizard hat for the last time :'(
doffs robe and wizard hat solemnly
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Someone archived all the quotes on the Internet Archive.
Phew. Otherwise we'd need to share all the quotes by mouth around a hobo campfire.
I've read Fahrenheit 451 so i noe.
I guess he'll never put on his robe and wizard hat nor cast level 3 eroticism ever again.
not gonna lie, I am like..genuinely kinda misty eyed over the end of the era.
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Man, first time I went through the top posts, I was in tears.
Damn, I hope it comes back. Bash was one of the greatest monuments to internet history.
Qdb.us has gone about two years ago as well. None of these had remained?
d-_-b
Wait, how you make that backwards b?
EDIT: never mind.
Or whatever it was...been a while.
I was about to laugh at you but then I got the reference.
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I'm glad it got archived, but if you think those weren't fake I have a bridge in New York for sale cheap.
Some were.
You'd be surprised how many were not. I spent an awful lot of time on irc in the 90's...
There's an actual submission from there written by me (and posted by someone else). I am (very) mildly internet famous, under another handle.
Can confirm that at least one of them is genuine.
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Yeah, seconded. I saw a decent chunk of things in person like I saw on bash.org. People were silly and/or dumb long before friendster, myspace, facebook, etc. and did plenty of shitposting (and just general cringe-y teenage obnoxiousness) on IRC and the like.
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Just going to shamelessly paste this one for the memories
< Cthon98 > hey, if you type in your pw, it will show as stars
< Cthon98 > ********* see!
< AzureDiamond > hunter2
< AzureDiamond > doesnt look like stars to me
< Cthon98 > < AzureDiamond > *******
< Cthon98 > thats what I see
< AzureDiamond > oh, really?
< Cthon98 > Absolutely
< AzureDiamond > you can go hunter2 my hunter2-ing hunter2
< AzureDiamond > haha, does that look funny to you?
< Cthon98 > lol, yes. See, when YOU type hunter2, it shows to us as *******
< AzureDiamond > thats neat, I didnt know IRC did that
< Cthon98 > yep, no matter how many times you type hunter2, it will show to us as *******
< AzureDiamond > awesome!
< AzureDiamond > wait, how do you know my pw?
< Cthon98 > er, I just copy pasted YOUR ******'s and it appears to YOU as hunter2 cause its your pw
< AzureDiamond > oh, ok.
E: formatting EE: formatting EEE: more formatting??? EEEE: omg I don't know how to fix this anyway you get the idea
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Yeah, I noticed a couple months ago :(
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