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well it is a much more direct approach than usual...
For literal decades Biden has been telling Israel he'll support them no matter what, but they need to worry about the optics of their actions...
He's 100% ok with what's happening, he just wishes they were quieter while doing it.
He's not going to hold Israel accountable, because he knows the only other person Americans can vote for is trump.
So Biden sees no reason to stop supporting Israel, in a moderates mind it literally doesn't matter because the Republicans would be even shittier. Which by some twisted logic means Biden can be just as bad and it's not a negative.
It's a great example of why "not a Republican" can't be the bare minimum for the dem candidate.
'dissolve your democracy' or 'support ethnic cleansing'
Not a great set of choices at the ballots for Americans this election.
I mean ... has America ever halted it's eugenics program?
Founded upon genocides by slaveholders.
I got 2 choices comes November. And nothing significant is going to change our voting system between now and then.
FUCK do these moralists propose I do?! After 01/06, I am more than a little wary.
"I don't like what Biden is doing!"
"Well fuck me, I hate it. Still want a functioning democracy come January 2025?"
Because I'm not liking having an AR-15 leaning on my desk, and a 12-gauge on my nightstand, for when the local Brown Shirts decide I'm "vermin" and they need to raid my house "for my own good". Anyone think that's "radical" or "paranoid"? Got steep yourself in some WWII history lessons.
And BTW, the Brown Shirts will be local, on your street, if Trump wins. It won't be, "Your machine gun gonna fight the military?!" No. All politics are local. Wait and see.
"Mr. Shalafi, look, we're your neighbors, and we know you love you some guns! But times have changed. We just need to collect those up for your own protection. You can have them back once things calm down, pinky swear."
Fuck me. I just got a buncha guns because I like shooting and gunsmithing old crappy stuff. Now that hobby is turning serious. And I fucking loathe that change.
I'm 53 soon, and I cannot begin to express how fucking angry I am to have typed those last sentences.
I know, I know, I was complacent, didn't see it coming. But fuck me, I voted these past decades. And here we are.
I am a peaceful man, but I am not harmless. I'd suggest you gun-grabber libs think on that a moment. Because the other side already has thought on it.
Or here's a novel idea: the candidate who doesn't want to dissolve democracy could dramatically increase his chances of winning by NOT enabling genocide including ethnic cleansing and domicide.
I'd set the likelihood of THAT ever happening at zero a month or two ago, but now it seems he's slowly realizing that enough people actually care more about human rights than empty platitudes and slavish devotion to what's become an apartheid state that he has to change course.
I'd say there's now a 10-20% chance he's going to at least PRETEND to agree that Palestinian lives matter between now and November.
Let me help, it’s more nuanced than that
It’s “dissolve our democracy and support ethnic cleansing at home and abroad” or “support ethnic cleansing abroad only”
He's not going to hold Israel accountable, because he knows the only other person Americans can vote for is trump.
The reason he's starting to pretend to listen is that he's losing in the polls.
Turns out that the electorate has a ridiculously short memory.
Turns out that the "I'm not the other guy" tactic is much less effective for an incumbent than a challenger.
Most shockingly, it turns out that continuing to ignore the rightful moral outrage of as many as half of your potential voters, maybe even more, is an extremely bad idea even if your opponent is objectively many times worse than you.
So yeah, as much as he hates it, he's gonna have to do something different, or at least pretend to, and he knows it.
The reason he’s starting to pretend to listen is that he’s losing in the polls
He's been polling bad this whole time...
And just illegally went around Congress to "sell" weapons to Israel in exchange for a small slice of the billions we've given them this year.
I wish what you were saying was true, because its optimistic
But it's just not what's actually happening...
Biden works for the war machine
Calm down, everyone! Biden is already acting. He's sending weapons to Israel as fast as he can.
But this is fine because Trump would send them even faster and make the children even more dead. All hail the glorious two party system.
The Abraham Accords is often cited as an escalation towards the situation we are now in that it tried to politically isolate Hamas: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Accords
Maybe the orange man wouldn't make a difference on the arms front, but he is really good at planting seeds for conflict.
I don't understand where the people taking these statements seriously (either to support them or to oppose them) imagine that the Palestinians could possibly go from Gaza. Egypt won't take them. That means they're not going anywhere.
Nobody would take the Jews in the 1930's either. This is part of the playbook.
They'll eventually just push them into Egypt. It doesn't matter that Egypt doesn't want them. It matters more that Egypt probably won't start shooting over it. And if they do they'll be labelled anti-semites anyway and Israel will take the Sinai or something.
Israel can't take the Sinai. There's a peacekeeping force there specifically to prevent such a thing...
And yeah. Yeah they're just going to lean on MFO Sinai to oversee refugee camps aren't they.
I'd say the Israelis couldn't attack American troops and maintain their support but uhhh they already managed that some decades ago.
I don't think the point of genocide is for them to leave.
Anywhere else... I think the point is to say that they should've figured it out. They had warning and opportunity to leave, even when they didn't. The Nazis played the same strategy.
The people downvoting you need a history lesson. Hitler used the same rhetoric to justify the Holocaust.
Nothing out of the ordinary here. Just the head police officer of Israel suggesting actual ethnic cleansing in a reasonable tone.
Nope definitely not an evil government.
The only pressure Biden feels is how to feign any concern about anything Israel is doing.
While it's nice to hear that Biden is 'under pressure' about this, I wish it took something less than obvious genocide and a near-global consensus that these are crimes against humanity for any sort of media to register it.
I honestly don't understand why Biden is so hawkish on this; it's not like giving Israel carte blanche will get him support from Republicans, and doing it really does appear to divide the left enough to hurt him politically.
Biden is hawkish on Israel because he remembers a version of Israel that doesn't exist anymore. The stalwart of the Middle East is a shell of itself and it doesn't want the rest of the world finding out. I know his age is a meme at this point but it's worth pointing out here
It also explains why he treats the GOP the way he does, he's remembering a much older Senate.
I wonder what it would take for Biden to act. The actual bombing and killing isn't enough. Are these statements by Israeli leadership what it will take? I don't really understand what is behind Biden's support at this point.
Been wondering the same. Traditionally the US has supported Israel, no matter what. But fuck me. Biden has thrown all has cards on the table in support of genocide, and I still have to vote for him. What a clusterfuck.
Meanwhile, Ukraine is fighting our arch enemy and we're bickering about whether to send them more arms. Here's our chance to destroy Russia, once and for all, with not a soldier lost, not even a mildly damaged M4 rifle, and gather all the intelligence in the world on modern combat. Finally. And the GOP won't do it. Reagan is spinning in his grave.
That when conspiracy theory come to place. When Biden spoke about victims of hamas attack next day, he was and still emphatic. Yet never spoke about the civilians or kids who died in Gaza. He doesn't sees them.
There are a few options to his actions and looking at all of them they don't make sense. He is not evangelical working towards the kingdom of Isreal to happen. He doesn't need money. He doesn't have relatives living there. Yet he been knowing to be a zainoist since he was a senator.
My conspiracy is that he is blackmailed by Isreal especially when he visited Isreal first time.
Here is a quote about his memory from a few weeks back.
over 50 years ago, as a young senator, I visited Israel for the first time, as a newly elected senator.
"And I had a long, long trip — or meeting with Golda Meir in her office just before the Yom Kippur War. And I guess she could see the consternation on my face as she described what was being faced — they were facing."
To me it is very clear how compromised the us government by Zionist. Senator, presidents, and most of the rich and important companies which ultimately own the media. If it wasn't for social media we wouldn't know much about the suffering that children is going through nor their cries.
I wonder what it's like living in a functioning democracy.
It ain't exactly bliss but it ain't this either
Given what transpires about the US on the international news scene, I'm not sure putting that to a democratic vote would yield the result you expect, sadly.
well color me the shade of anal bleach