I know several people in the kink community who would congratulate and be enthusiastically happy for someone who said the first, but would only politely say "congrats" to the second.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A BDSM munch comes to mind.

[–] Sharpiemarker@startrek.website 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm ok with not knowing what that is. I'll take your word for it.

[–] blackstampede@sh.itjust.works 15 points 9 months ago

A munch is a non-sexual social gathering of kinky people with food.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My friends and family say this kind of shit all the time, I'm sorry your life is without humor.

[–] Sharpiemarker@startrek.website 3 points 9 months ago

Big assumption there chief

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 2 points 9 months ago

Furry convention

[–] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Half of my former social circle would have found the second version unacceptable

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[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 28 points 9 months ago

I saw someone describe it as "anti-natalist" which i feel is way more apt. Don't want kids? Child free. Hate people for having children/make up strawmen to grind an axe all the time about it? You're anti-natalist.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Thank you for saying that. I loathe the child free people, and I don't have kids. They're all so stringent!

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 5 points 9 months ago

This is an SNL skit about two gay men trying for a baby: https://youtu.be/v7PYpysL_dI?si=AfIRnvUkFoH2rINu

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[–] kzhe@lemmy.zip 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Anti-natalism is the belief that it's immoral to bring in new sentient beings into the world and isn't inherently bad to be, I'm sure most of them don't attack people who have kids constantly.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 9 months ago

This.

People don't have kids because they ponder the possibility of creating a new person. (They exist, but they're the rare exception.) They have kids because they want the minime or the cute thing, and are not thinking about the angsty horny teen that toddler will become, or the struggling adult getting abused by The Man. (Unless the family is rich, in which case, how dare the brat have a personality, or is LGBT+ or wants to do theater rather than take over the business)

And then, my kid (by blood) and grandson (by marriage) are going to face a massive global population correction in their lives which will shape their entire lives the way Dresden affected Vonnegut. I love them both and am jolly sorry they are just going to have to deal.

I also get the drive to breed is compulsory. The baby machine has been honed across eons of evolution to overwhelm resistance. Those who can go childfree, I encourage to do so. But those who do have children, even in a society that disregards them, I get it, and figure we should spoil them as much as we can.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Ah I guess the terms have become somewhat conflated then. Either way, there are definitely large swaths of the child free crowd that are incredibly hostile to parents and children.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think in both cases, a line gets crossed when people start hating the kids themselves. I'm not talking about having an aversion-- some of them genuinely hate kids. Even if I believed it were an atrocitious act to bring children into this world, even if I were to find children unpleasant(1), it's not the kids' fault.

(1) Oh hi! 👋 You saw my footnote! Just wanted to make clear I'm talking about a hypothetical person here. I personally like kids and don't find them unpleasant. Just making sure you know that so we don't start a pointless argument. Have a fantastic day!

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

Well said

[–] moog@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This has nothing to do with disliking kids. It's just poking fun at how we euphemise things sometimes.

On another note, I really fucking hate kids lol. I'm so glad I'll never have them. How much I loathe them is nowhere near how obnoxious people get about their kids. They make that their whole personality way more than I ever will.

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[–] redempt@lemmy.world 43 points 9 months ago

yes that's what euphemisms are for

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago

You can say anything you want to anyone, but there's usually a better way to say it.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I just like that someone is getting laid every night and that is part of their best life. In fact, I assumed the hot messy creampie woman is managing her fertility as she sees fit.

Also jizz is totally a drug. Dopemine, I think.

[–] chumbalumber@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And yet the doctor tells me I have to stop snorting jizz because it's "bad for my lungs". Like, ok narc smh

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

My wife got pregnant on our first try. Yes, I am that potent.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 9 months ago

We live in a susiety.

[–] Tarcion@sh.itjust.works 16 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I love when this post/thought pops up because it just outs people who have no idea how pregnancy works.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What about this is not how pregnancy works, exactly?

[–] Tarcion@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Mostly the "every night" part. There are only about 6 days a month when women can get pregnant iirc. And unless she's getting a random train of dudes, there's pretty significant diminishing returns on repeated loads (not that they hurt, mind you). It's just kind of a childish comparison.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 11 points 9 months ago

Well that's complicated. A LOT of people who can get pregnant don't have regular cycles, don't have predictable ovulation, don't know or have all the regular signs of ovulation, etc, that make tracking fertile periods tough. They are also people who bleed during ovulation, or have sporadic bleeding throughout their cycle, or bleed frequently from sex, all of which can confound predicting ovulation.

To compound that, sperm can live up to 5 days in the receivers reproductive tract extending a typical ovulation period to 11 days. https://www.webmd.com/infertility-and-reproduction/sperm-and-semen-faq

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago

If you are trying to be efficient about it and/or are having difficulties. For the majority of people, forgoing birth control and doing it every other day is more than enough to get pergnant.

[–] conneru64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 9 months ago

I don't see how that means they don't know how pregnancy works. Yeah, you could track it, or you could just cover all possibilities.

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[–] witheyeandclaw@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

For real. Is the stork just chopped liver?

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And no one mentions the clapping shells!

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Or the incubation tanks!

What.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

"people", in this instance, are evidently you, which is ironically why we need more than half-assed sex ed

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[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I like how it outs all the humorless uptight busybodies personally

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 13 points 9 months ago

And when they do get pregnant I'm the asshole for saying "congratulations on your successful ejaculation!"

[–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

You say: We aren't trying for a baby, but we're not avoiding it either.

I hear: I'm off my birth control and we're raw-dogging like 5 times a day.

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