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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 157 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The only thing I could think of with the whole "1000 Mozarts" comment is that there's a very real chance that if the world Musk and Bezos envision came true, those Mozart level geniuses would be working in an Amazon fulfillment center or a Tesla assembly line, wasting their talents as a slave to capitalism.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's what they actually want anyway. Drones for their business ventures.

[–] phorq@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I was wondering what happened to the drone delivery Amazon promised... It all makes sense now...

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

That's actually something that's likely already happening, assuming they manage to even achieve that.

I guarantee there are tons of potential geniuses born that are never afforded the chance to develop or even demonstrate their abilities... and when they do, aren't recognized. Either because they are from the dirty poors and/or the Moneybags family can just leverage their resources to ensure their kids get the opportunity or recognition instead.

If you don't believe in fairness or equality, the potential benefits to yourself by way of improvements to society from geniuses should motivate you.

I'm so tired of the pattern of a well balanced society flourishing and then a few selfish fuckwads hoard resources and starve their society back into a stagnant imbalanced fief.

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 90 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Since when do facts count as shitposts?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's an educational shitpost for people who think Luke Combs is the height of musical talent.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Who TF is Luke Combs?

Also, wishing you good luck!

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I think this is the creme de la creme of shitposts.

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[–] BluesF@lemmy.world 81 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The idea that population numbers are all it takes is so stupid. Mozart is not just one guy who was really good at writing music. I mean, obviously, he literally was, but he only existed and wrote what he did in the way he did because of not only his own "genius" but also the circumstances he was raised in, his education, the musical traditions that he drew from, the fact that he was wealthy and had time... Etc etc.

Adding more people living in poverty, with poor education, no connection to musical or artistic tradition, and no time... Will not add more Mozarts.

[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 55 points 1 year ago

"I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops"

  • Stephen Jay Gould
[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Mozart wasn't wealthy, his customers (patrons) were. His father trained him in the family trade from birth and put him to work at a young age.

He had a lot in common with Michael Jackson in that way, but Michael got insanely rich and Mozart didn't.

[–] BluesF@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sorry, you're right! But... He also didn't live in a slum or have to work in an Amazon fulfilment centre lol.

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[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Most of the super famous classical composers were born with in 90 years of each other. On one hand thay were brilliant musicians, on the other hand It was also this thing that was happening right then.

I'm fairly certain if the circumstances were different we still have a bunch of people doing the same work.

[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

Those composers are famous because they were pioneers in the development of music and their work has been used to educate musicians in virtually all countries during the last century. There are composers creating similarly valuable music today, sometimes working in cinema or video games, and composers doing pioneering work, usually in experimental music. They aren't as famous because their work isn't being used worldwide to educate musicians, but they might be by 2123, provided society hasn't collapsed.

[–] BluesF@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

That's part of what I'm getting at. The musical culture at the time arose through the work of many, many composers, and through the listeners who talked about it etc. Cultural development is complex and requires much more than just a handful of geniuses.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

They said multiple Mozarts. Ween also checks those boxes.Ween

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There’s probably quite a few that are really only known to their immediate friends, families, and communities.

There are a lot of really talented people out there, who will remain mostly anonymous. It’s probably nicer for most to not be in the limelight, though it sucks for the rest of us who will never know.

[–] Igotz80HDnImWinning@kbin.social 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I bet there are a ton of Mozarts who have to work shitty jobs just to exist and will never fully develop their skills due to economic inequality. If we give everyone UBI, at least some of them would develop fully.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"You know what the greatest tragedy is in the whole world?... It's all the people who never find out what it is they really want to do or what it is they're really good at. It's all the sons who become blacksmiths because their fathers were blacksmiths. It's all the people who could be really fantastic flute players who grow old and die without ever seeing a musical instrument, so they become bad ploughmen instead. It's all the people with talents who never even find out. Maybe they are never even born in a time when its even possible to find out. It's all the people who never get to know what it is they can really be. Its all the wasted chances."

[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bad ploughmen? Living in an Amish paradise?

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's from the Discworld novel Moving Pictures. If it's spoofing something, I didn't get it.

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[–] dojan@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah I can see this. I also think there'd be quite a few that just aren't interested in the fame, or maybe want to keep their stuff private.

I know a person who writes her own songs every so often. They're usually made as a way of dealing with something going on in her life. I had no idea about this until after like five years of knowing her she shared one. It was beautiful, she has a great voice, and she plays the guitar really well. Since the pieces are so personal it's just not something she'll share with most of the world.

Is she a Mozart? I don't know, maybe. To me at least the experience was really profound.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There are exceptions, but in general, in the modern music world, beauty trumps talent. You could be a great musician, but if you don't look pretty on YouTube, the A&R people think no one wants to hear you.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think modern media can offset that a little. There's been plenty of people making use of virtual avatars to represent themselves in the past few years and still achieve decent success. Though obviously you're quite limited in what you can do if you remain anonymous.

I recall a few years ago a singer rather like that, REOL, made her first music video which she herself starred in and it kind of did accelerate her popularity. It's hard to remain anonymous if you're also looking to tour and be on stage. As an aside; it's delightful how her "face debut" song is about how she's unsure how she wants to do her debut.

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[–] Jaytreeman@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We can add Frank Zappa to the list.
'watch out where the Huskies go '

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would say that Zappa didn't really fit criterion 3 like Al does.

Not to take anything away from his genius. But not every musical genius needs to be a Mozart.

[–] VubDapple@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think he does fit. Consider the genre spanning records he did in the 80s like Joe's Garage with every song from a different style. Consider how he found talent in unusual places and incorporated it, for instance Ruth playing the marimba in Inca Roads. But point also taken. No one mocks like All mocks

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess in a way I feel like Zappa was in a class all his own.

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[–] Beardsley@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun. dun. dun. dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dundundun dun dun dun dun dun dun.

A.I.D.S.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Fuck it I'll die on the same hill with you.

[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

I'm a simple man. I see Weird Al, I upvote.

[–] playereightyone@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The hill is going to be a hill of bodies.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

You shall have my axe

Weird Al, sure.

But also Jack Black.

[–] art@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You just made Mozart sound cooler to me.

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[–] pelotron@midwest.social 14 points 1 year ago

Jacob Collier as another serious answer.

[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

My votes would have been for Freddy Mercury (definitely) and Eddy Van Halen

[–] Gebruikersnaam@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Arjen Anthony Lucassen for sure!

[–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

He popped to my mind very quickly as well. Let's go down the list:

  • Significant talent, dedication and skill

Would say, though I'd say he especially shines in composition and getting the right people to shine.

  • Write music across a bunch of different contemporary genres

Basing yourself on prog metal is kind of cheating in that respect xD

Seriously though, the genres within albums, or sometimes single songs, of his can be a bit of a rollercoaster. If another reader is still drawing a blank, The Day That The World Breaks Down

  • Draws from the work of others

Isn't that basically the standard for most musicians? And also, in the aforementioned track's clip, he specifically refers to a few inspirations. And moments when he let his collaborators do their thing and shine. "Hey Mike, here are your lyrics: 01110100 01110010 01110101 01110011 01110100 01010100 01001000 00110001, go nuts!"

  • Shitposting and odd outfits

Have you been at Live Beneath The Waves? His girlfriend got an applause, his brother was heckled & booed, and his keyboard guy was called a LUL by the entire audience. All at his request.

Arjen checks the boxes pretty well.

[–] Ulvain@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

Wrong place to post - this is just high quality content

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I mean it's not wrong. Kind of incredible really.

[–] WhisperingEye@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Christmas At Ground zero is the best Christmas song ever!

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wouldn't it also mean a thousand Musks and Trumps?

Or probably millions of them since they are not very smart at all, just attention seeking man childs.

[–] tslnox@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago

That's absolutely true.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

This post has so much BDE.

Incredibly based.

[–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I feel Damon Albarn might fit this as well, specifically with Gorillaz. They don't have a style because it always changes on each album, hell their shit post song if the full version of Do Ya Thang where Andre 3000 just says "I'm the shit" for over 7 minutes.

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