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[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 100 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Interesting that the article thinks 50 to 65 is the boomer generation. Poor Gen X will be forgotten until they are no more.

I'm definitely represented in this article. I basically don't buy beef anymore despite being raised with it was the centerpiece of my diet.

I've learned to embrace plant-based alternatives generally find them as enjoyable if not more so than beef.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 91 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't mind being forgotten, but I mind being lumped with the boomers.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Damn boomers can't even keep to their own generation

[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 8 months ago

Get off my decade!!

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I think of Gen X as people born in the 70s or late 60s, so that age range is pretty much split between X and Boomers imo. They also mention later on that both generations are responsible for similar rates of meat consumption

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Can confirm. I'm Gen X and we buy beef by the cow from local farmers.

[–] MJKee9@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Best way to do it imo

[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's totally fair and it's a great article, it just made me laugh. Thanks for sharing.

[–] thesmokingman@programming.dev 1 points 9 months ago

I think both points still stand! Boomers go to the mid sixties which means the upper range of 50 to 65 covers boomers. However, the bottom range is definitely Gen X and the authors forgot you!

Having made the mistake of forgetting Gen X in a comment the other day my eyes have been opened.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 months ago

GenX goes up to 1982.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago

Boomers/Old GenX still act like Millennial, a generation in their 30s and 40s, is a word for children or young adults.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 75 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Who would have guessed, a generation that is constantly struggling on money can't buy expensive meat at the same rate the generation that got everything handed to them has been. Who could have known that there were unforseen consequences to economic strategies that have produced one of the greatest period of economic disparity of all time!

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

It's almost as though massive wealth consolidation and the maintenance of an economic underclass as we prioritise unproductive shareholders over productive workers is bad for the economy.

Who'd have thought?

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 68 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Great, it's terrible for the environment and fairly insane animal welfare-wise. So it's cool that we can just stop doing that. The business already doesn't make economic sense and has been heavily subsidized in various ways by the government for decades. I thought capitalists loved the theory of supply and demand?

[–] CasualPenguin@reddthat.com 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

*Heavily subsidized by taxpayers

[–] iiGxC@slrpnk.net 25 points 9 months ago (9 children)

I used to love eating meat, till I had to actually think about ethics beyond "whatever the bible says is right" and recognize that all sentient beings are morally relevant

[–] AlataOrange@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Do you mean sapient? Because plants are also sentient; all sentience is is the ability to react to senses. Sapience on the other hand is the ability to have higher thought, like tool use, teaching, recognizing yourself in a mirror, etc... Finally there is the ability to feel pain which I do not think has a word. Plants from what we can tell cannot process pain, but can process negative stimuli.

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[–] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Sentience may not necessarily mean moral relevance.

For example to be a member of a moral community, which are groups of people who agree to uphold and undertake certain actions with a shared belief of what is good or bad, requires more than just sentience.

For me personally the ability to hold someone accountable for their actions in some way is an important component of moral community membership.

Animals are not held accountable in the same fashion as humans and so it could be argued they don’t deserve membership in our moral community.

If that’s the case then they have some kind of diminished moral standing.

You may then argue that a fetus or comatose person also has diminished moral standing so what obligation do we have in those instances?

One answer to that would be to hold the belief that although a fetus or comatose person is unable to have complete membership to a moral community they are impeded by other circumstances and if those impediments were removed they would be full members. A cow on the other hand will always retain the cognition of a cow, excluding it from full membership.

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[–] Shirasho@lemmings.world 21 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I've found a lot of people in my generation (Millennial) don't eat red meat, not because they don't want to but because they can't. It gives me incredible heartburn, and many of my friends become physically ill if they eat it.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Wasn’t there a disease going around that made people sick when eating red meat?

[–] Remmock@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago

For a non-tick response- Prion contamination resulting in Mad Cow Disease. One meal and your brain eventually rots in moldy cheese.

[–] SuiXi3D@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

There’s a kind of tick that, once it bites you, causes you to be deathly allergic to red meat from that point forward.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 months ago

Yep, there is, it spreads though tic bites, and once bitten you will allways get sick after eating red meat.

[–] zib@kbin.social 6 points 9 months ago

Millennial here and I've had a similar experience. I ate a ton of red meat growing up, but once I got to my early-to-mid 30s, I noticed beef would give me a lot of stomach issues. I switched to eating chicken and sometimes (depending on the dish) substituting the meat entirely for black beans and found my stomach issues got a lot better. And it's still just as tasty to me, so I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 5 points 8 months ago

When I had Celiac undiagnosed, all I could figure out was that I felt awful after meals. My theory was I needed to eat more healthy. I started eating whole and organic foods, which didn't help, then became a vegetarian, which didn't help (and some people sure were dicks about it). But yeah, anything that leads to eating more veggies and fiber can help with certain digestive issues and overall health.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I don't get heartburn, but I also don't poop for a few days.

I don't not eat beef/meat, but I also don't really eat it either.

[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Only in the Northern hemisphere. Current industry trends indicate some major meat-craving markets gearing up as we speak (e.g., Brazil). Likely a growing demand continues far into the future right now, even if some developed nations are seeing the pendulum swing the other way.

The problems of meat production on the climate are NOT going to go away on their own.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

China is also driving a lot of the global growth in beef consumption. Any recently industrialized country really

[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Just in time for alt-meats to become cost-comparable and palatable enough to compete I'm genX, voting with my dollars for that, despite beef being so delicious

[–] Senokir@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

The only reason plant based meats haven't been way cheaper than animal meat the entire time is because of how heavily subsidized the animal agriculture industry is. Without the government literally single handedly propping up the industry it wouldn't be a viable way to make money.

[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 9 months ago

Oh no. Anyway…

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 8 points 9 months ago

I used to eat a LOT of red meat, but I have started getting bored with it.

So now, I am eating more chicken, and most of the red meat I still buy comes from a nice farm shop, I realize it is a luxury, but I can afford it and it is tastier than store bought meat.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Am I the only one who doesn't care for red meat? It's good but there's a lot of good food out there. I'd take pizza, sushi or campero with papasa over beef any day. Where's this obsession with beef coming from? Is it just good marketing?

[–] Pogbom@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I hear it goes great with leaded water.

[–] dumples@kbin.social 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I have stopped eating as much beef mostly for economical reasons. I used to eat steak since I loved it and its easy to cook. However, its now way too expensive to buy casually. I love a good steak at a restaurant so that is mostly the only time I eat it now. That it is bad for my health and the environment are mostly secondary.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If you mean to cook at home, I've done well by not caring about the cut and buying whatever is one sale. Not like, old and discounted, but often the stores near me have sales when they have a lot of something or who knows. I bought a 2.2 lb roast for $9 the other day for instance, which is enough for me to eat for days and is even cheaper than ground beef.

[–] dumples@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago

It's worthwhile if it's on sale. Just got to find the right time. Hard to plan around it since you never know when it's cheap enough.

Roasts I might start doing more than steaks. Since steaks never go on sale near me

[–] TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

We buy beef like twice a month. Just trying to maintain a healthier diet.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is ludicrous, especially in the US. Demand has skyrocketted, processing is at all time highs, and prices are reflecting this.

I think someone is smelling their own farts.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Demand is up because population is up. Per capita consumption is down, per the article that part doesn’t seem to be disputed

[–] blazera@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

Self reducing demographic

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