this post was submitted on 21 Dec 2023
135 points (99.3% liked)

politics

18852 readers
4259 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
  2. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  3. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  4. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive.
  5. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  6. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

With less than a month to go before voting begins, Donald Trump‘s Republican rivals are once again rallying to his defense, this time after Colorado’s Supreme Court ruled to remove him from the state’s presidential primary ballot under the U.S. Constitution’s insurrection clause.

Just as they had following Trump’s successive indictments as he racked up 91 criminal charges, the GOP front-runner’s opponents cast the landmark decision — the first time in history the 14th Amendment has been used to disqualify a presidential candidate and one the former president has vowed to appeal — as inappropriate, a “stunt” and an “attack on democracy.”

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis charged the court’s ruling was a plot to ensure Trump wins the nomination because Democrats view him as the weakest Republican candidate.

all 27 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 24 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis charged the court’s ruling was a plot to ensure Trump wins the nomination because Democrats view him as the weakest Republican candidate.

The amount of sheer illogic needed to make each Republican the victim of a Democrat plot is hilarious.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Yeah, what better way to ensure victory than to restrict ballot access? Let's test that theory by letting both him and DeSantis be on the ballot only in Mississippi!

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago

Oh, Ronny Two-boots is absolutely a professional victim. He's a disgusting, cowardly human being that only knows how to punch down. Here's hoping the DoJ is just sitting on the Human Trafficking charges till he's out of office.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I wonder how he squares the fact that the petitioners were Republicans and independents - you know, people who are qualified to vote in the Republican primary.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The only requirement to vote in the Republican Primary is "I think I'd like to vote in the Republican Primary this year."

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

https://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/elections/FAQs/primaryElectionsFAQ.html

Q2. Who can vote in a Primary Election?

A2. During either the Presidential or June primary:

  • Voters affiliated with a major party: may cast a ballot for candidates of the party they are affiliated with.
  • Voters affiliated with a minor party: if there is a minor party contest those affiliated with that minor party may cast a ballot for those candidates.
  • Unaffiliated voters: An unaffiliated voter may cast a ballot for any one political party. If an unaffiliated voter returns a ballot with more than one political party, the ballot will be rejected and none of the votes will be counted.

If you are registered with a specific party, you may not vote in another party's primary in the state of Colorado, even if you "think you'd like to."

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ok. Let's assume I am, in fact, currently registered as a Democrat. Am I never allowed to change that affiliation?

Oh, I can change that affiliation?

What are the requirements to change my party affiliation again? Is "I think I'd like to vote in the Republican Primary" a sufficient reason?

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

That's fair. But it's also true that the actual Republican petitioners in the case (five of the seven) are very long time Republicans who have been notable in party politics in the state.

[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Hey fuys i know we're all running against him, but maybe if we all suck his dick at the same time he and his supporters won't be so kean to us, I'm sure this time will be different"

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I guess what they don't seem to understand (or are unwilling to understand) is that the more they prop him up, the less influence they have over the party and the much lower chance they have to win the presidency.

Of all the people to stand behind to the end of the earth, they choose this guy?

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 7 points 9 months ago

Yeah, they aren't running for president, they're all running for backup and/or VP.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not only that, but he has shown time and time again that loyalty only goes one way, and he will throw them under the bus the first chance he gets.

[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I mean it only happens every single time with Trump.

Trump is only interested in scapegoats and yes men.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

an “attack on democracy.”

No you see, this is the real attack on democracy, not the attack on the capitol building intended to overturn the democratic results of the election.

[–] TwentySeven@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

But I thought we were "a Republic, not a democracy."

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’m sure all this cozying up will get them positions in his cabinet until they slightly annoy him. Even his last VP had his life threatened. Why do people want to be anywhere near this fascist asshole?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Why do people want to be anywhere near this fascist asshole?

Because birds of a feather flock together.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

For the life of me I just can't understand who's donating to these people. Like who are their supporters? They literally aren't trying to win. Their entire thing is cow-towing to a different candidate. What's the point of them even being there? Like I get most of them are it to make money I get that. But why are people paying them?

[–] speff@disc.0x-ia.moe 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Corpo donors probably don't care about them winning the presidency. They're doing it to get their foot in the door when the primary candidates inevitably end up in office positions.

Donations from the general public? I have no fuckin idea what the reasoning there could be

[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 9 months ago

I figure it’s a race for second in the hope that the first place guy will get disqualified and/or imprisoned. So they try to look like the obvious replacement for the guy the base can’t have.

Or, if Trump is able to run, they want to be on his good side just in case.

[–] Wodge@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If they aren't using Trump's legal issues as a point of weakness to attack him, they're not running for the nomination. As such, what are the campaign donations for? Seems like fraud to me!

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

So it's really just Chris Christie & Asa Hutchinson.

[–] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 6 points 9 months ago

Donald Trump’s GOP rivals

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Nobody on those debate stages is actually running for president. They’re all auditioning for Trump’s VP slot.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago

There is not cowardice like conservative cowardice.

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Baaaaaaaa baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[–] argo_yamato@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

Well makes sense to me that they would somewhat band together over this since their common enemy is democracy and the US constitution