People are really good at supporting ideas that harm themselves.

Just see any country and any election ever. Hopefully they don't win but you will always have a significant minority wanting to create a shithole for everyone themselves included.

I've met people like that and they're all insufferable edge lords. Trump is a contrarian and to them contrary is correct.

If I had to guess it's money.

So gut instinct: he’s probably a misogynist first and black and gay come after that. It may not be correct but holy hell as a lesbian it describes a lot of the gay male conservatives I’ve met.

The more nuanced potential is that people don’t like being put into boxes or perfectly matching stereotypes. Additionally many people can’t read between lines even when it’s obvious. Trump went very hard against immigrants and Black Lives Matter protesters, and he has white supremacists supporting him and a history of anti black prejudices, but he’s never said that he hates black people. Similarly he’s ranted and raved about trans people, and he allies with people who hate gay people, but his words are not explicitly against cis gay people. So if he wanted to be willfully ignorant to declare himself as the special good one who won’t be boxed in by your preconceived notions of what he should be, all he has to do is not read the obvious messages between the lines and hope they go away.

The local conservative party leader is gay... I think it's just that the members are too stupid to realize it or something and he just let's them say whatever they want so he can cling to power?

You nailed it. The belief in "I got mine, f u" isn't tied to any sexual orientation or race.

It just doesn't work out for the minorities since most conservative-minded people are also xenophobes

I'd wager that these conservative minorities are probably xenophobes too

Thank you for having something intelligent to contribute to the discussion, this place is just turning into reddit with less and less comments like yours.

I appreciate your position on identifying how someone who would otherwise be assumed to be more empathetic could find their way into these ideologies.

I'd add that it's because he as an individual has probably faced very little actual oppression. I make the assumption his parents had money and he lived in a relatively affluent area. He got to his mindset because he hasn't actually experienced what is a reality for so many others.

Again, just assumptions

I will say that it’s an attitude that can only develop with a combined lack of wisdom and empathy.

Intelligence isn’t one thing, but the stories of tokens being used and thrown away are difficult to miss in our culture and even if not it takes a lack of wisdom to fail to see that the bigots don’t like the good ones either. And it takes a lack of empathy to get there. It requires being unable or unwilling to see consequences that others see easily and then to behave reprehensibly to get those consequences.

Nah man.

Conservative means "control the rate of change". In the context of the USA they are conserving the rate of change from a White Supremacist slaver society to society with the shocking idea of black people are people and black lives matter.

It is somewhat about money.

But this post is about the racism and homophobic character that lies at the feet of the Xian white US nationalists core values.

And that ain't money. That is about force.

people are conservative because they value their own money

How does that make them any different from liberals?

For sure not all boomers are conservatives, the ones that are close to me (including my parents) are all left wing and very progressive and none of them have an easy comfortable life or a big pension!

A lot of these kind of people often let (or even request) you to call them by slurs, often as an attempt to get bonus points from the far-right.

I don't like the way that this metaphor blames dogs. This right here is more a case of 'Man lays down with Republican Party, gets chlamydia.'

A useful idiot for when "woke commienists" complain that conservatives are not inclusive

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