Employers controlling their workers “time off” is old fashioned dystopia.
this post was submitted on 19 Dec 2023
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If it's on company time, it's fine.
My work is somehow promoting sport over lunch break (well there is always an Ass hole setting a meeting at 13) but it's lunch break, not work time. However, during that time we build connections with other employees, talk about work, so basically free cross department team building for the company
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Unless the company is going to allow me to run in company time or pay me my base pay plus overtime on top of the bonus that's a hard fuck no from me.
Company wants my time, they better damn well pay for it.
ETA. Thinking about it more, nah this whole running for your bonus is bullshit and I wouldn't do it even if they paid me overtime since running/exercising unless your job is directly related to it, running has nothing to do with work performance which the bonus is based on.
But they are paying you for it. Not for your time specifically but for your distance. Idk if you read the article but highest tier is 130% of your base salary.
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Other than the disability, privacy and disability concerns already raised- Running is SO boring. What if you prefer other cardio activity or a mix of strength training and cardio? Why does it have to be running?
I also can’t see how this doesn’t open them up to lawsuits for any injuries incurred from a sprained ankle to a blown out knee or a heart attack. I’m a manager in a large company, and I got a bit nervous at some of the offsite activities, and those were mild things like dunk tanks. Plus I bet the entertainment company or venue carries that insurance. This is literally making the run part of the job, and it’s a relatively dangerous activity.
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The article says climbing and walking are both accepted.
It's still a bit of a mockery to ask employees on wheelchairs to get up and walk if they want their bonuses.
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The amount of bonus a worker gets is based on the number of miles they complete each month.
I understand what they're trying to do, but this is just not equitable. You'd have to figure out how to handle this for people who cannot run (such as wheelchair users). This greatly favours those with more free time and less obligations (such as people with no kids). It favours those already in shape and those who have fewer health issues.
This will favour those who already have it better off, which is the opposite of equity.
Good idea in theory, but I don't like the model where it's applied based on output.
What is the good part in theory? I can't see how what/how much exercise, if a person chooses/is able to do it at all, is relevant to their job? Especially in a company that makes paper??
If employers want their employees to be happier and healthier they need to pay them better (for their work, not for whatever unrelated and out of hours activity they decide to "reward") and give them more time off, anything else is profit seeking bullshit.
Yeah good point. I should have said "interesting idea in theory." I fully agree with you
100km/mo = 3.33km/day or A little over 2 miles a day.
Which sounds do-able if you're fit and healthy. But what if you're disabled or partially disabled?
Yeah, I'm handicapped and absolutely would not be able to do this.
I would also be horrified if my handicap was required to be ousted in order to receive a raise.
Reality is you dont want to run every day. You can. But you should not for the sake of your joints.
Realistically this should be 6-8kms, 3-4 times a week.
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You don't even need to be disabled to be unable to run or do heavy exercises. There are several conditions that can make running painful or impossible, like arthritis, athrosis, hernias, respiratory problems, etc.
Tying the bonuses to how fit you are is straight up evil. I highly doubt the boss will pay for medical expenses of people that push themselves too far to get the most money, who, ironically, might effectively end up losing that extra money.
Workers record their exercises and distances using fitness apps.
Clearly nobody will find a way to cheat that, no siree!
This area has been pretty well explored by Pokemon Go players already. On Android there's an app called defit that has multiple options for adding fake exercise data to your Google fit account which is where Pokemon Go, and typically these insurance apps, pull their info from.
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Some guy pushes himself too much, dies from a heart attack and they cancel the initiative
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At one previous company where I worked I started a karate dojo, and I gave voluntarily classes. About 40% of the company regularly trained with me and we all got ripped, it was awesome
That's a great way to do it, not tie work bonuses to it.
chairman of a company that makes paper
Michael Scott energy
Michael Scott's Dunder Mifflin Scranton Meredith Palmer Memorial Celebrity Rabies Awareness Pro-Am Fun Run Race For the Cure.
That episode even had Kevin insisting he doesn't want to run and Michael threatening to fire him.
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One of my previous jobs did something similar to this only without reward and public shaming as the punishment. We were all cube workers forced to do army standard tests and training after work.
that is genuine hell, my god
Run 2 miles/day to receive a bonus of 130% my salary? That seems insanely good value and this is coming from someone who has run about a total of 2 miles since I left school.
Get the train to work and park just over a mile away, run to catch the train and go to work. After work run back to your car. Instant 130% salary increase
Unless you're disabled, elderly or otherwise unable to do this... Not to mention how is this tracked? I don't want MY employer knowing what I do or where I go in my free time.
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It's because these employees needed these bonuses. They were essentially a normal part of their compensation. Now it's being held hostage.
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That's actually not a bad idea. Their employees staying fit and healthy also helps then being more productive for the company long term. The employees themselves, also probably wouldn't mind staying fit and healthy. Win/win.
is the insurance good enough to cover the cost of a knee and a hip for me? because that's what i'm gonna need if they want me to take up running. at minimum.
this is not a bonus available to employees who can't take up running, for whatever reason.
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Man I would love this
"Sorry boss, I can't come to work today, I haven't met my monthly miles, gotta run 🏃♂️🏃♂️"
ITT: I’m fat. I don’t wanna.
Also itt: when the employer says "run" you ask how much, you peasant, you should never question decisions of your master
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