What would you have me do? All I can do is vote against it.
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If you don’t have a lot to fear from a right-wing dictatorship I guess all you can do is vote against it.
If you’re someone who does have something to fear from a right-wing dictatorship, begin thinking about preparations to hide, run, fight etc. because unsurprisingly every right-wing dictatorship has a high body count.
Still hoping common sense wins out, and unlike a lot of other countries that went dictatorship the military doesn’t have the same relative power and authority, but it’s best to have some plans for the problems that could occur.
The most influential person in politics is you. Openly speaking out to your family and friends about the danger of Donald Trump is the best method of his defeat and the preservation of our democracy. All politics is local.
Time for the people of the US to do some kind of a peaceful overthrowing of the system
We cant expel sex offenders and insurectionists from government, you think you can peacefully overthrow the whole thing?
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We're not sleepwalking into anything.
There's an increasing number of people who are sprinting towards it at top speed, an increasing number of people willing to let it happen because they're mad at Biden over Israel or upset that he's not the embodiment of the perfect candidate, and then those of us who are blaring the warnings from our bullhorns, only to find that half the crowd is blaring right along with us and the other half has no interest in what we're saying.
"Biden's old and Israel is bad now, so clearly the obvious solution is to vote for a Trump dictatorship. Surely that's the most common-sense solution and absolutely nothing can go wrong. The leopard certainly won't eat my face, right? Right?!?!?" -- an increasing number of independent and Democrat voters
Also, a lot of the media wants a horse race and wants their clicks, no matter the risk. And they keep bothsidering Biden and Donnie.
The party is dogshit at messaging and has no intention of even trying to get the votes of the people you described.
The principal concern at the moment seems to be preemptively finding a group to blame if Biden loses. Imagine if that energy and focus were put into trying to win votes.
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The folks who say never Biden are right wing operatives. Perhaps unwittingly in some cases, but I suspect many of the loudest voices don't want to see any Democrat win and running down Biden is their best shot at that.
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TBH I would understand if he was smart, scheming and charismatic. Instead, they are rooting for a buffoon, an idiot and a failed businessman. He was even in power before, and they still want him back.
Look, I will hold my nose and vote for Biden in the general, just like last time. But don't pretend that he had any business running again.
I'm not gonna vote for anyone because I'm way too left to agree with a lot of their politics, I'm just gonna vote against Trump. It doesn't matter who is running against him, I'm not letting that dipshit win again. Or the republican party in general at this point, they've gotten too crazy.
Centrist City here I plod
The best thing about Biden and Israel, is he's doing nothing different than any other president since 1948. Trump was the one who moved the American Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem ffs.
He's actually kinda better on Israel than previous presidents, he's been negotiating the release of palestinians being held hostage in Israel, and has secured Gaza the right to access their own natural resources, which Israel had been blockading.
Almost like he's actually doing the thing the left accused him of disregarding and using the US' good terms with israel and israel's dependency on the US as a negotiating tool to keep things as clean as possible without Israel going completely off the handle and doing something like firing a nuke out of feeling completely isolated.
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There's an increasing number of people
Citation needed
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You know, they are not sleepwalking. Its pretty intentional. Hitler's had a large following....in the United States. They even had a convention once.
You don't understand. The right WANT to be ruled by a dictator.
And then they'll have the most amount of rights!
The best/most powerful rights
The right is the minority in the U.S.
Republicans are a minority, but the right is the overwhelming majority. America has no mainstream left, its firmly center-right with a center-right party and a fascist party.
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Make no mistake…. They’re WIDE AWAKE and doing it.
"He's not hurting the people he needs to be hurting"
-- A real quote by a real Trump voter.
They know what they're voting for, and will be so surprised when it happens to them too.
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I've said it once, and I'll say it a million more times: the average American, who never received adequate education due to the erosion of the American education system over decades of Republican cuts, doesn't know a damn thing about political ideology. "Fascism"? Is that like if you don't like someone's face?
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The dictatorship supports the right wing policies so they support him.
The only reason that Convicted Rapist Treason Trump is "ahead" is swing state polls is because he spent huge sums of money on media commercials there and Biden has yet to spend money there because he doesn't have a real primary. In America we have an advantage other countries didn't/don't have. A culture of valuing democracy and freedom that is literally as old as the country itself. We need to keep emphasizing how Convicted Rapist Treason Trump is a clear and present danger to our American core values.
They're both historically unpopular candidates, Biden took his first hit after the Afghanistan pullout and never recovered from the low 40s of approval, took his 2nd hit with Israel and is trending downward still.
But we’re still gonna pick the non-dictator option by a huge popular vote margin. The other 40% are cheering the dictator.
The problem it’s the swing state morons, who either don’t bother voting or “protest” vote for some third party and end up enabling the fucking dictator. Those are the only possible sleepwalkers. And there really aren’t that many of them.
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What is with these bullshit whiny articles? They literally voted against his dictatorship last cycle.
Stupid fear-mongering.
More dominoes lined up this go around.
More safe guards have eroded since 2020. The Republicans that did not fall to heel have been replaced.
Last time he had less of a plan, and less institutional support. Now they have lists of supporters to fill the non-elected positions -those were the people that who slowrolled and resisted his worst policies before.
I'd like to be more optimistic, but this isn't going to be a fair fight and the stakes are higher.
And Tumbervill blocking military promotions was for one Reason. Remember the military higher ups were fundamental in stopping Trump from doing a lot of crazy dictator things.
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The scary part is the Supreme Court trying to kill Voting Rights just before the election. I'm more afraid of that.
https://scrippsnews.com/stories/is-the-voting-rights-act-at-risk/
Completely agree, that's what I'm worried about also.
They're getting real good at taking away citizen rights
New polls that aren't good.
He also refused to step down..
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...unless the justice department do their fucking jobs, nobody is above the law.
Not sleepwalking but speed running fully awake.
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