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[–] LolaCat@lemmy.ca 116 points 11 months ago (2 children)

”We asked 10 autistic people if they’d drunken milk before and 100% said yes, therefore more milk causes autism!“ - peta, probably.

[–] Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 11 months ago

Peta actually in the 90s.

[–] phuntis@sopuli.xyz 15 points 11 months ago (5 children)
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[–] JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 56 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Am I the only Autist who is extremely offended by people saying "this or that" causes Autism?

It's annoying when corporations try to use the condition as a tool to further their bullshit arguments.

[–] Marighost@lemm.ee 37 points 11 months ago

You should be offended, and PETA has been doing this forever to make people think eating animal or animal products is bad. But their assertion also implies autism is a negative thing, which is untrue.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 19 points 11 months ago

It also insinuates that autism is a disease even though we now know it isn't.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You are absolutely right to be offended. I have neurodivergent people in my family. I love them dearly. I wouldn't want them to be any different. My father (likely) had autism. He was a professor who got invited to lecture at the Sorbonne and wrote something like 30 books. My brother has autism. He makes far more money than I do because he's a really good coder and he's happily married. Neurodivergent people can live lives as full of success and happiness (and lack of success and unhappiness) as anyone else. They just do it differently.

Acting like autism is some sort of horror that parents should fear is disgusting.

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[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 11 months ago

it's ironic because arguably society "causes" autism, if society wasn't so fucked then things like autism and ADHD would just be quirks to take into account.

"oh yeah mary doesn't like speaking to strangers so we tend to hang out together so it's easier for her"

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 52 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If that was statistically significantly true, Sweden would be autism central. We have since sometime in the 70's been giving our children milk with every meal.

[–] evidences@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

When I was growing up through the 90s in America this was a pretty normal thing too. I drank a lot of milk as a child. Like I have a lot of anxiety now but other than liking trains I don't really seem that autistic.

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[–] bleistift2@feddit.de 39 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I hope the evidence is more substantial than the “link” between vaccines and autism…

[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 54 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Considering it's from peta, there's roughly a 100% chance it's just total bullshit.

[–] JPAKx4@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

105% with a tolerance of 5%

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Potentially 110%?

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 40 points 11 months ago (1 children)

100% of autistic people who have lived past 30 have breathed air and drank water, but nobody is out here drawing the link between air and water…. The real danger.

[–] umbraroze@kbin.social 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Thousands of people got severely exposed to Dihydrogen Monoxide during 2004 Indian Ocean Tsunami and 2005 Hurricane Katrina, and subsequently died! It's frankly baffling that people don't talk more about this!

[–] Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 11 months ago (4 children)

This was what lead to the idea that vaccines caused autism, Peta was pushing this crap in the 90s.

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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

It's peta, so probably not.

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 37 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I wouldn't be surprised if PETA was secretly funded by meat companies as a way to make the image of vegans look bad

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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)

studies have shown a link

Is a phrase that could mean anything and is, therefore, meaningless

[–] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Autistic people like milk: studies show a link.

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[–] MarmaladeMermaid@lemm.ee 33 points 11 months ago

Holy shit. That’s bad. There were some very poor quality studies done on whether autistic people had a worse inflammatory reaction to A1 proteins than allistic people ( https://atypicalscience.org/a1-beta-casein/ ) but they were certainly not implying that milk causes autism or that autism has a “cause” that should be avoided.

[–] Johnhones@sh.itjust.works 28 points 11 months ago

I have done my own study and I also found a link between cows milk and autism. They are both on this image. Spooky stuff.

[–] Vytle@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Dude aside from the wack implication that you can develop autism, this is super fuckin... Like i dont wanna say ableist cause i dont view autism as a disability. obviously it can be but literally anything severe enough can be a disability, but i digress. This ad is just super fuckin agressive to people on the spectrum for no reason. I knew peta was bad but goddamn

[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Well, it's a disorder, it's right in the name.

If people "liked" it, they wouldn't be taking meds to help them function.

I'm not hating, just think we should take things for what they are

Edit: sorry, thought we were talking about ADHD

[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There are no meds for "autism", there are meds for health issues that autistic people are more likely to have, which autistic people shouldn't take if they don't have those health issues.

As for it being categorized as a disorder.

Homosexuality was classified as a mental disorder in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) beginning with the first edition, published in 1952 by the American Psychiatric Association (APA).

Would you have said "I'm not hating on homosexuals, just think we should take things for what they are" in 1952?

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[–] CCF_100@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 months ago

I take medication for my ADHD, not my autism. My autism is a part of who I am. ADHD is just annoying.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's bigoted is what it is. Bigoted against neurodivergent people. Who, as you say, are not disabled.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I found a link between milk and death.

Everyone who has ever drank milk has, or will, die.

Ergo, drinking milk is deadly.

[–] bfg9k@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Dihydrogen Monoxide is proven to be toxic to humans when injected and kills thousands of people every year.

Our waterways are completely riddled with this dangerous substance.

[–] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 11 months ago

If peta was a person I would like to punch them

[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

Fuck you peta

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 11 months ago

Btw this peta campaign was from 2008.

[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Frowns in lactose intolerant

Well shit, guess here I go with the vaccines again

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[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 10 points 11 months ago (7 children)

While this claim might turn out to be false, the amount of vitriol hurled towards Peta really is something else.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 45 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Even if you've never heard of any of the other terrible shit they've done, you have a live example of outrageous ableism from them, and you still jump to their defence (from 2 people who basically said "fuck peta" on the internet E: not even, they basically said "peta aren't trustworthy" which is demonstrable fact)?

We (because fuck peta) are not the fucking problem here..

[–] Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 11 months ago

Because Peta engaged in ableism & Pseudoscience that later inspired the anti vaccine movement.

[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

A) Exploiting and fuelling fear of a vulnerable group is evil.

B) They don't get the benefit of "may turn out to be false". They get to start at "fuck these bullshit lies".

[–] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 22 points 11 months ago (11 children)

The people who want us to give up all meat and even not have pets operate the biggest kill-shelter in the United States. They're constantly preachy, condescending, they lie. Fuck em.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Euthanising animals that have nothing to live for any longer, who are dead-sick and are in agony. Compared to the billions of animals raised for animal ag, slaughtered on the daily, just to be sold for pennies in stores. I don't think they're the villain here, my guy.

[–] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 13 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Miss me with the "my guy" shit. It's smarmy.

The post we're commenting on they're saying milk causes autism, like out of their ass. Just like they did with vaccines. You say they aren't the villain, but making shit up about people with medical conditions doesn't make you a hero.

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[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 22 points 11 months ago (16 children)

I'm vegan for a decade now and for a while I felt like I have to support peta because they fight for the right cause. But seeing all the shit they publish, I'm not that sure anymore

[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

I guess PETA are useful for making regular vegans seem extremely tolerant and reasonable.

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