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[–] darq@kbin.social 57 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Except if you have enough money, it's not even gambling anymore. The only way you'd lose is if everybody loses.

And that's completely ignoring the fact that enough money lets you influence the rules of the game to tilt the odds in your favour.

[–] Techmaster@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

Once you have enough money you can make even more by betting against others' success.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

And if you're only slightly rich (as in, daddy's a lawyer) you can afford to gamble, lose, and then try again.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 41 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you're rich you can afford to gamble, lose and try again.

If you're poor, you can gamble, win, and then have to spend your winnings helping out your family and community. Like, paying for the operation your uncle needs but couldn't afford, or helping mom's friend from church avoid losing her home.

This is a reason that a lot of poor-person owned businesses don't grow. They may start strong, but then the business owner has trouble continuing to invest.

[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

very well put.

[–] ChaRRdude33@lemm.ee 29 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Are you telling me my gambling addiction will finally pay off??!

[–] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Not unless you do it outside a golden palace that abstracts your money into vouchers and chips.

But generally wealthy people make more gambles in business, partnership, accountability, other people's lives and social welfare, and the general stability of the world.

Like say becoming an arms dealer then paying the cost of a F-150 economy package to a couple senators and having them spend their endless war chests with no audits or oversight on some missiles to kill some goat farmers or something.

Or creating a pesticide with the upside of remaining active in soil for 4 or 5 centuries (and recycling in the human liver for up to a year after exposure) and having it produced in an impoverished southern town and then exported to French Polynesia so they can continue to grow cloned banana trees.

Or like taking doctors on nice yacht lunches and golf trips and telling them yes you really have developed a non addictive opioid.

Are you gambling with your money or other people's?

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Was any of your ancestors a particularly successful mass murderer in the middle ages?

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I mean, depending on your definition of mass murderer, you can safely say yes.

[–] worldsayshi@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The serious answer is that you need to play positive sum games.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I disagree. The serious answer is you have to be the one person that gets lucky.

Take 1024 people each with 1000. They all play roulette and go all in every round, half on black half on red. After 10 rounds, 1023 people have lost all their money, and one has won a million dollars.

The person who "made it" didn't do anything different, or play a +EV game. He just got lucky.

[–] PaintedSnail@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Roulette is not a positive sum game, though. If you keep playing, eventually you will lose everything to the house.

A positive sum game is where repeated plays will average out to a net gain. The secret is having enough initial capital to keep you alive if your initial gambles don't pan out. People living paycheck to paycheck don't have that

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You're correct, but you're also being a bit pedantic and ignoring the point OP is trying to make. It still illustrates the point just fine at 47.4% instead of 50%. Odds of winning 10 in a row go from 1:1,024 to 1:1,746.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Successful people have massive heads, got it

[–] Duralf@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

It's because they don't put work on them.

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago

That gambling tower is defying the laws of physics and it will come crashing down.

Just like gambling, I guess.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago
[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Hmm, this makes me want to play Lemmings again for some reason.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 11 months ago

I recommend Humanity as a modern strange take on it.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1581480/Humanity/

(Is available on PS+ Extra as well)

Also reminded me of Timekeepers, which is another old Amiga game which I suspect nobody here will remember.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fuuuck that takes me back to the dos days. They dont make games like they used to (in pure assembly I mean)

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 4 points 11 months ago

Some madlads still do. Retro City Rampage (which is already over 10 years old now, damn) was ported to the NES, so that's some 6502 Assembly work there.

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Image is actually cut off. What's missing is below each person there's a swimming pool. For poor people it's filled with water, for successful it's filled with money.

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

To be realistic, shouldn't the stair be made of first panel's WORK piles?

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago
[–] JustMy2c@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Give All Matters Bullish Attention

Or what does it stand for?

[–] sparky678348@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Klear@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] uis@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago
[–] Jackcooper@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Who is this guy I've now seen in two gambling memes

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 1 points 11 months ago

New Masters of the Universe hero dropped

[–] jkmooney@kbin.social -2 points 11 months ago