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The American Civil Liberties Union said Thursday that the Saucon Valley School District had agreed to pay $200,000 in attorney’s fees and to provide The Satanic Temple and the After School Satan Club it sponsors the same access to school facilities as is provided to other organizations.

The ACLU filed the lawsuit in March after the district rescinded its earlier approval to allow the club to meet following criticism. The After School Satan Club, with the motto “Educatin’ with Satan,” had drawn protests and even a threat in February that prompted closure of district schools for a day and the later arrest of a person in another state.

Saucon Valley school district attorney Mark Fitzgerald told reporters in a statement that the district denies having discriminated against The Satanic Temple, its club or “the approximately four students” who attended its meetings. He said the district’s priorities were education and the safety of students and staff.

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[–] oDDmON@lemmy.world 97 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Four students and Satan, facing down the ISD. You GO guys!

[–] norbert@kbin.social 62 points 11 months ago

This is what patriotism looks like. These are the heros fighting for freedom.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 74 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

I assume the Satanic Temple is the non-theist one, which doesn't actually believe in Satan, and just uses it to troll religious nutjobs.

It's a pity the Christian right are invariably functionally illiterate, or they would have known to not kick themselves in the dick.

[–] jago@lemmy.ca 77 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Why would you assume anything? The answer is provided in the article itself. Why can so few people be arsed to read the information provided before leaping to an attempt at pithy commentary?

The group ... views Satan not as a supernatural being but as “a literary figure that represents a metaphorical construct of rejecting tyranny over the human mind and spirit.” The club’s programs, they say, focus on “science, critical thinking, creative arts, and good works for the community.”

(Boldface mine. "science" comes to us from Latin's "scientia": knowledge)

The irony of assuming something instead of learning/confirming it from the information provided, as regards an article about an organization whose stated focus is on knowledge and critical thinking, is disappointing.

[–] SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Tbf they're using one of the internet's laws to their favour. I forgot the name, so I'll do the same thing and call it Godwin's law: when you want to know something you post an incorrect answer (or in this case not knowing the answer, they basically wrote the right answer) and someone will correct you soon enough.

It's lazy tbh, but it helps in case you don't know how deep the rabbit hole is gonna be and don't have the mental capacity or time to invest in it. This is specially relevant to people who have ADHD or other similar attention disorders.

P.S. I did end up looking up the actual name of the law and it's Cunningham's law, so I corrected myself in this case.

[–] _dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Let's get meta! lol

Godwin's Law: As an online discussion grows longer (regardless of topic or scope), the probability of a comparison to Nazis or Adolf Hitler approaches 1.

Cunningham's Law: The best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question, it's to post the wrong answer.

[–] threeduck@aussie.zone 1 points 11 months ago

you are hitler

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago

greatest reply of the season

[–] totallynotaspy@kbin.social 31 points 11 months ago

Correct on The Satanic Temple (TST) being non-theistic. While it did start off as trolling, it has coalesced into a religion of its own (much to the chagrin of the nutty christians here), just without the superstition used to coerce people in abrahamic religions.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

It's great. It calls out their hypocrisy.

It's too much brain cells because all they can think about is

Christian == good

Satan == bad

[–] Iamdanno@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Tbf, to really believe the things that organized religion tells you, you have to be on the wrong side of the IQ bell curve, so it's not really something they have the ability to avoid.

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 62 points 11 months ago (2 children)

After going back on its word, insulting a minority of students, and paying at least $200,000, they'll now allow the program! Fucking geniuses there in Saucon Valley administration.

[–] Bumblefumble@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago

I guess they can Saucon it, amiright?

[–] ManOMorphos@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I bet we'll see a small town like this one eventually introduce an ordinance to ban "Satanism" within city limits. And they will see nothing wrong reconciling that with the Constitution.

[–] Cheers@sh.itjust.works 49 points 11 months ago

Saucon? Saucon deez nuts.

After School Satan club? ASS club. Nice.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 44 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you want to teach about God in schools.

Then you have to include all the gods. The old, the new, the spaghetti, the fallen, etc.

[–] helyx@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 11 months ago

ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

[–] June@lemm.ee 37 points 11 months ago (3 children)

On a completely trivial note: who the hell estimates a number that small? Approximately 4? Just count them, it’s not hard.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] June@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It’s a count of how many attended. So I would assume the number is set.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Timmy stopped showing up after January and Blake only comes every third Tuesday. 👀 Who cares?

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 11 months ago

Counting is hard like real hard.

[–] rosymind@leminal.space 2 points 11 months ago

It's satan. Doesn't really count as a student, but likes to hang out the school with the 3 in his club. So... approximately four...

[–] spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works 36 points 11 months ago

Add another to the “win” column for TST.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 28 points 11 months ago

Hail Satan!

[–] xenu@kbin.social 27 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I'm guessing the after school Jesus club didn't draw any objections.

[–] joeyv120@ttrpg.network 41 points 11 months ago

I've been following this story for a while, and no, the school and the surrounding community didn't have a problem with the Christian club. Early on (iirc) the school claimed they denied the Satan club because they handed out fliers in school, against the rules for religious clubs, even though the Christian club did the same thing.

[–] jargoggles@kbin.social 27 points 11 months ago

Of course not. In the US, you have the freedom to choose how you worship the One True Religion™.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 1 points 11 months ago

Technically, this was the objection.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 27 points 11 months ago

You can donate to TST, it’s an insane sane choice in a sane insane world.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Teachable moment for the school district 🤣

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Burning well over $200k will do that. But I'm sure some "mom" that doesn't even have kids in that school district will try something to disrupt the new club

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 17 points 11 months ago

Lmao

Beautiful.

[–] moistclump@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

$200,001. IIRC, $1 in damages.

[–] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago

Back in the 60s my best friend started the "organization for atheists" OFA for short. This was in response to the young christians group. They even had a cheer OFA, OFA, OFA goodness sakes!!!

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

lmao the jab with "approximately four" man fuck y'all

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

Saucon? The district is actually called Saucon?!